Is God trying to tell me somthing?

[ColdDonut]

I was using somthing from a compony that sells immoral products and i stepped on a nail while using it i also got dust in my eyes while using it and some of it also broke is God trying to tell me not to use or buy from thie compony any more?

 

[cheese007]

What are these "immoral products?"

 

[Molal]

ColdDonut, can I delete the other thread you created - it looks like you accidentally created two threads.

Thanks

 

[ColdDonut]

ColdDonut, can I delete the other thread you created - it looks like you accidentally created two threads.

Thanks

Yea you can i was getting used to the new fourm and thought that it would be slow so i clicked twice.

 

[ColdDonut]

ColdDonut, can I delete the other thread you created - it looks like you accidentally created two threads.

Thanks

Well the compony sells http://mcfarlane.com/toys/series.aspx?series=359
the 'Mrs santa claus is the one i am talking about. (Warning the toy is a girl that is undressed)

 

[True_Blue]

ColdDonut, there are two tests to use to determine whether you should quit this firm. The first is your conscience, and the second is what I call the "primary purpose" test. Your conscience is clearly bothering you by working for this company. I would quit on that basis alone. Life is too short to work for companies like this one. I also apply something I call the "primary purpose" test to determine whether a person should work for a given company. Something is wrong with every company, company I went to the website, and it's clear the company is PRIMARILY money by marketing evil. I work for the US Air Force. While individual members of the Air Force have done evil things from time to time, the primary purpose of the Air Force is to defend the United States and protect against evil. Since my conscience doesn't bother me, and because I feel God has called me to the military, I am very confident that I am doing the right thing in my current employment.

The toys this company sells are twisted, so I would quit post haste. There are jobs out there you will absolutely love--you just need to find them.

 

[ColdDonut]

ColdDonut, there are two tests to use to determine whether you should quit this firm. The first is your conscience, and the second is what I call the "primary purpose" test. Your conscience is clearly bothering you by working for this company. I would quit on that basis alone. Life is too short to work for companies like this one. I also apply something I call the "primary purpose" test to determine whether a person should work for a given company. Something is wrong with every company, company I went to the website, and it's clear the company is PRIMARILY money by marketing evil. I work for the US Air Force. While individual members of the Air Force have done evil things from time to time, the primary purpose of the Air Force is to defend the United States and protect against evil. Since my conscience doesn't bother me, and because I feel God has called me to the military, I am very confident that I am doing the right thing in my current employment.

The toys this company sells are twisted, so I would quit post haste. There are jobs out there you will absolutely love--you just need to find them.

O my mistake i put for insted of from i do not work there.

 

[Molal]

Yea you can i was getting used to the new fourm and thought that it would be slow so i clicked twice.

Thank you

 

[cantata]

There's nothing unethical about the model - in fact, it's quite amusing - and in any case, if you're worried about buying from unethical companies, why not try looking at their behaviour rather than their products? What's worse: a company that makes a slightly skimpily-clad model of a pole dancer, or a company that uses child labour and pays slave wages in developing countries?

Priorities, ColdDonut. Priorities.

 

[The Gregorian]

slave wages are better than no wages. It'd be nice to pay 'em more, but honestly... people at those sorts of shops everyone looks down upon AREN'T held there by force.

Anywho... there's nothing wrong with the human body... God made it, and it's beautiful... well, the girl ones at least. You should be more concerned about the history of "santa."

Santa is an omniscient, immortal being who judges who's good and evil and rewards people accordingly? He takes the place of God. Ask a child why he should be good.... it's often not to please God... but to please santa... who's been turned into a replacement for God. Tack on the idea that he's banished to a waste land (north pole vs. hell), he wears a big red suit, and his name's "santa" move one letter and it becomes "satan."


The fact that they're idolizing santa is the problem... not that you can see a girl's bathing suit.

 

[The Gregorian]

also, a problem more serious than the fact that the girl's scantily clad... is that stuff is related to the comic character "Spawn" .... someone who was empowered by satan to lead the forces of hell against the forces of heaven... of course Spawn is a "good guy" and fights AGAINST the forces of hell... but still not a good environment. no no.

 

[cantata]

slave wages are better than no wages. It'd be nice to pay 'em more, but honestly... people at those sorts of shops everyone looks down upon AREN'T held there by force.

No, but they are ruthlessly exploited because they are desperate.

Or do you think paying destitute women for sex (or their organs, or to be drug mules) is okay because, after all, they're taking the money?

Anywho... there's nothing wrong with the human body... God made it, and it's beautiful... well, the girl ones at least. You should be more concerned about the history of "santa."

Santa is an omniscient, immortal being who judges who's good and evil and rewards people accordingly? He takes the place of God. Ask a child why he should be good.... it's often not to please God... but to please santa... who's been turned into a replacement for God. Tack on the idea that he's banished to a waste land (north pole vs. hell), he wears a big red suit, and his name's "santa" move one letter and it becomes "satan."

The fact that they're idolizing santa is the problem... not that you can see a girl's bathing suit.

Oh, give me strength. You'll be telling me the tooth fairy's a metaphor for the Ba'al next.

 

[ranmaonehalf]

I was using somthing from a compony that sells immoral products and i stepped on a nail while using it i also got dust in my eyes while using it and some of it also broke is God trying to tell me not to use or buy from thie compony any more?

poe?

I ripped my pants in the crotch, is god telling me not to wear pants and go about as adam and eve did?

 

[True_Blue]

There's nothing unethical about the model - in fact, it's quite amusing - and in any case, if you're worried about buying from unethical companies, why not try looking at their behaviour rather than their products? What's worse: a company that makes a slightly skimpily-clad model of a pole dancer, or a company that uses child labour and pays slave wages in developing countries?

Priorities, ColdDonut. Priorities.

A product designed to arouse prurient thoughts, like the pole dancer toy, is malum in se--inherently wrong. Evil is evil--one form of evil is not worse than another form of evil in the eyes of God. On the other hand, it's not inherently wrong to hire children to work as long as (1) the employment is not coerced, and (2) the working conditions are reasonable under the circumstances. It's also not inherently wrong for businesses to play low wages. In fact, workers have an affirmative duty to their families to demand the highest possible wages from their employer, and companies have an affirmative duty to their owners to pay the lowest possible wages to their employees. The salary actually paid out reflects a compromise between those competing interests. The fact that an employee may be "desperate" for a salary in no way makes it immoral for a company to pay what we would consider a low wage.

 

[WatersMoon110]

A product designed to arouse prurient thoughts, like the pole dancer toy, is malum in se--inherently wrong.

So the female body can only be viewed as a sexual object?

If I want to be aroused, I would look at pictures of completely naked chicks, not some (very nicely made, mind you) toy of a scantily clad pole dancing Mrs. Santa Claus. The objects are obviously designed to amuse young adults (as in, high school seniors to people in their early thirties), who probably don't have children. I see nothing evil about that, but you are certainly welcome to not buy it. *grin*

On the other hand, it's not inherently wrong to hire children to work as long as (1) the employment is not coerced, and (2) the working conditions are reasonable under the circumstances. It's also not inherently wrong for businesses to play low wages. In fact, workers have an affirmative duty to their families to demand the highest possible wages from their employer, and companies have an affirmative duty to their owners to pay the lowest possible wages to their employees. The salary actually paid out reflects a compromise between those competing interests. The fact that an employee may be "desperate" for a salary in no way makes it immoral for a company to pay what we would consider a low wage.

I disagree, as do most people for worker's rights. It is immoral for a company to employ children, in fact it is usually seen as a human right violation. And it is immoral to pay one's workers far, far less than a valid working wage and far less than one can afford to pay them.

 

[HannahBanana]

On the other hand, it's not inherently wrong to hire children to work as long as (1) the employment is not coerced, and (2) the working conditions are reasonable under the circumstances.

How could a child not be coerced into employment? Most children don't even know what a job is, beyond the fact that Mommy and Daddy have one (or, in some cases, only Daddy has a job or only Mommy has a job). Seriously, you think that a child (by which I mean a 3-9 year old...that's what I think of as "a child" anyways) could consensually agree to work for someone? Sure, an older child might be able to, but a younger child? Heck no.

Plus, aren't children supposed to be all innocent and naive? Why are you okay with taking a child's innocence and naivete away from them? Why shouldn't every child be allowed to just "be a kid"?

 

[True_Blue]

How could a child not be coerced into employment? Most children don't even know what a job is, beyond the fact that Mommy and Daddy have one (or, in some cases, only Daddy has a job or only Mommy has a job). Seriously, you think that a child (by which I mean a 3-9 year old...that's what I think of as "a child" anyways) could consensually agree to work for someone? Sure, an older child might be able to, but a younger child? Heck no.

Plus, aren't children supposed to be all innocent and naive? Why are you okay with taking a child's innocence and naivete away from them? Why shouldn't every child be allowed to just "be a kid"?

My mom hired me to do household chores when I was six. I had to work for my allowance. That was a very wise thing for my mom to do, and I will definitely emulate her. When I was in 5th grade, I mowed lawns around the neighborhood to buy my first Nintendo game. Work is good for the souls of people of all ages. I will raise my own children with the same work ethic.

Children have little or no rights with respect their parents. A child should not be forced into slavery [uncompensated work] for an outside employer, but a parent certainly has the right to make children work on the family farm, for example, without compensation.

 

[True_Blue]

So the female body can only be viewed as a sexual object?

No, I didn't say that.

If you spend too much time looking at scantily clad pole dancers, eventually you will no longer be aroused, and you'll have to look at completely naked women. Pornography is much like a crack addiction in this respect, Waltersmoon.

 

[HannahBanana]

My mom hired me to do household chores when I was six. I had to work for my allowance. That was a very wise thing for my mom to do, and I will definitely emulate her. When I was in 5th grade, I mowed lawns around the neighborhood to buy my first Nintendo game. Work is good for the souls of people of all ages. I will raise my own children with the same work ethic.

Children have little or no rights with respect their parents. A child should not be forced into slavery [uncompensated work] for an outside employer, but a parent certainly has the right to make children work on the family farm, for example, without compensation.

You do realize that the topic of children working originally came up in this thread in terms of forced labor, don't you?

Also, why didn't you ignore me in this thread like you have in that other thread?

 

[Exhausted]

In direct response to the OP's question:

If you have to ask an internet forum about God's message, the answer is no. God is not trying to tell you anything. It's just a random accident.