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Two very interesting observations by scientists are:
1. "In analysing the barcodes across 100,000 species, the researchers found a telltale sign showing that almost all the animals emerged about the same time as humans."
2. "And yet—another unexpected finding from the study—species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between."
No, that's wrong. From a creationist source, a few cases of series of in-between species:
Darwin’s second expectation - of stratomorphic intermediate species - include such species as Baragwanathia27 (between rhyniophytes and lycopods), Pikaia28 (between echinoderms and chordates), Purgatorius29 (between the tree shrews and the primates), and Proconsul30 (between the non-hominoid primates and the hominoids). Darwin’s third expectation - of higher-taxon stratomorphic intermediates - has been confirmed by such examples as the mammal-like reptile groups31 between the reptiles and the mammals, and the phenacdontids32 between the horses and their presumed ancestors. Darwin’s fourth expectation - of stratomorphic series - has been confirmed by such examples as the early bird series,33 the tetrapod series,34,35 the whale series,36 the various mammal series of the Cenozoic37 (for example, the horse series, the camel series, the elephant series, the pig series, the titanothere series, etc.), the Cantius and Plesiadapus primate series,38 and the hominid series.39 Evidence for not just one but for all three of the species level and above types of stratomorphic intermediates expected by macroevolutionary theory is surely strong evidence for macroevolutionary theory. Creationists therefore need to accept this fact. It certainly CANNOT said that traditional creation theory expected (predicted) any of these fossil finds.
https://creation.com/images/pdfs/tj/j09_2/j09_2_216-222.pdf
So your own people disagree with you.
The large number of disputed species in various taxa (as Darwin documented in his book) make it clear that there are no hard distinctions between varieties and species.
And no matter how you want to justfify that there is no gaps in fossils
do you really believe fossil records are complete?
evolution is rubbish, but the creator made creation resemble evolution, for some obscure reason.Is there are proof of either?
evolution is rubbish,
but the creator made creation resemble evolution, for some obscure reason.
"In the last ten years, more than 1,500 large burrows have been discovered in southern and southeastern Brazil, dug in rocks that include weathered granitic and basaltic rocks, sandstones, and other consolidated sediments. Their presence in geological units of Plio-Pleistocene age suggests that large extinct mammals produced these structures. The internal walls exhibit scratches and grooves left by the animals that inhabited these structures. The burrows are straight or slightly sinuous tunnels that measure up to tens of meters in length. One smaller type measures up to 1.5 meter in diameter, and the larger type can reach 2 meters in height and 4 meters in width, suggesting that such structures have been produced by at least two kinds of organisms. This contribution proposes a classification for these ichnofossils under the generic designation Megaichnus igen. nov., consisting of two ichnospecies identified so far: M. major and M. minor ispp. nov. Although the exact identity of the producers of the burrows is yet unknown, the dimensions and morphology point to ground sloths and giant armadillos."
Wait wait, ground sloths and giant armadillos? But they were killed in the flood. So, how....what...if they were killed in the flood, how were they digging giant tunnels to live in? How much time did they have to do this? If thousands of feet of flood sediment were burying them alive?
No, I'm not, and I'm done chasing after yet another of your creationist arguments. You've had no defense when I've pointed out previous errors. All you've done is mock me and move on to another one.
Kurt wise broke down the flood into distributions over time, he made it out to be thousands of feet separated into 5 episodes, apparently.
According to Kurt Wise, there are 5 stratigraphic sections that are the product of 5 mega waves that passed over north america. One wave that formed the cambrian, one the ordovician, one in the later silurian to devonian, one in the carboniferous and one that sort of takes up most of the mesozoic, and then like maybe half of one in the cesozoic.
So if this is the case... then one wave of the mesozoic would have deposited >7000 feet of sediment (actually it would be a greater amount because there are currently 7000 feet of dense compacted mesozoic rock at the grand canyon) in a single wave.
Now, think about that for a second. How exactly is it that...dinosaurs, such as...those of the jurassic or cretaceous...how did they somehow manage to...make nests or even walk or do anything...if 7000 feet were deposited by a single giant wave? We have found predators and prey together with predator teeth marks in their respective prey, in the mesozoic. There are unique independent ecosystems throughout the mesozoic. And this guy is suggesting that it all just got deposited, 7000+ feet of it, all by a giant...just one giant wave.
It really does sound ridiculous when you think about it.
@The Barbarian @KomatiiteBIF
Just found this very interesting article
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html
Two very interesting observations by scientists are:
1. "In analysing the barcodes across 100,000 species, the researchers found a telltale sign showing that almost all the animals emerged about the same time as humans."
2. "And yet—another unexpected finding from the study—species have very clear genetic boundaries, and there's nothing much in between."
The more actual scientific findings we have, the more clear the picture is
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-gene-survey-reveals-facets-evolution.html
The article already addressed your first concern, "But the last true mass extinction event was 65.5 million years ago when a likely asteroid strike wiped out land-bound dinosaurs and half of all species on Earth"
The climate change 100ky ago is not as truely a bottom neck as you wanted, as all the evidences suggested.
And, as much as you want to say there are enough in-between species, there are not. All fossils jump, and you can't fill them, no matter how much you want to stretch it.
So I go ahead and take information straight from Kurt wise, all of a sudden it somehow becomes a strawman.
Would anyone like to explain Kurt wises explanation to me then? I'd love to hear others explain what he meant when he said a giant wave created Mesozoic mega sequences.
Ok, well you clearly can't respond adequately if you think...for example, that those decapods burrows, or the pliocene burrows, have not obstructed subsurface lamination.
These burrows among others sourced, have obstructed subsurface lamination. You seem to be in denial of this for some reason.
So, to conclude from my above post, bioturbation that has resulted in the destruction of subsurface lamination is common.
Now, there is an alternative question of...how deep or how wide or large of an area does bioturbation occur?
And the above sources, images, quotes etc. show us that destruction of laminated surfaces ranges from a few centimeters, to several feet, and in a few cases, even tens of feet both in depth and lateral distance.
@Bible Research Tools
So, you cannot rightfully deny that bioturbation and the destruction of subsurface sediments, occurs. And regarding the depths and complexity of bioturbation, you cannot deny that the fossil record contains burrows, deep (feet in depth) large (feet in width), long (feet in length), and complex networks that involve multiple levels and tunnels, laterally and vertically position around one another...
What more could you possibly ask for?
evolution is rubbish, but the creator made creation resemble evolution, for some obscure reason.
Your blizzard of posts -- a common debating trick -- are unhelpful. If you want to carry on a conversation, I will oblige. Otherwise, I will move to the end of your blizzard, and comment.
I checked Dr. Kurt Wise's research and lectures. He stated (paraphrasing), "there are claims of bioturbation in the geological column, but when they are examined the lamination is still there." As aforementioned, he also stated that there are lots of fossils of the burrowers, but only limited loss of lamination.
Now, answer this question: if the geological column was formed over millions of years, why is there any lamination -- any at all, except in highly saline lakes like the Dead Sea? Why is there world-wide lamination?
Dan
I see lamination everywhere the column is exposed. Why can you not see it?
Dan
Is there are proof of either?
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