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Is any one here a body builder

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I focus more on weight training than weight lifting. Concentrating on form and trying to develope muscles, not just trying to impress others with how much I can bench. Does that count?

I won't be making the cover of Muscle and Fitness anytime soon.
 
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I see these guys in the gym and they are massive.. plus they go to the gym twice a day and are there hours at a time

If they are training that much and are still huge then they are on drugs.

All you need is two full-body workouts per week with progressive poundages, plenty of sleep and good foods and you will grow. Don't fall prey to the phoney workout routines of the popular bodybuilding magazines.
 
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Apologist said:
If they are training that much and are still huge then they are on drugs.

All you need is two full-body workouts per week with progressive poundages, plenty of sleep and good foods and you will grow. Don't fall prey to the phoney workout routines of the popular bodybuilding magazines.
Full body workouts don't promote intense growth. This type of workout is good for providing endurance lifting and cardo lifting ( also toning). If you want to increase size and power, you need to isolate a muscle group each type you lift. Try to lift one muscle group each time you lift. Make yourself some type of rotation for lifting. One day chest and tris, then legs, then back and biceps. Something in that order.
 
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sledhead said:
Full body workouts don't promote intense growth. This type of workout is good for providing endurance lifting and cardo lifting ( also toning). If you want to increase size and power, you need to isolate a muscle group each type you lift. Try to lift one muscle group each time you lift. Make yourself some type of rotation for lifting. One day chest and tris, then legs, then back and biceps. Something in that order.
Powerlifters are some of the biggest guys there are and they concentrate on three lifts: Squat, Deadlift and Bench Press.

Isolating muscle groups is fine once you are big already, but the foundation needs to be built first so you do exercises that use the biggest amount of muscles. I do Barbell squats, Deadlifts, chins, bench press, seated shoulder press and crunches. These are done twice a week on Wednesday and Saturday.

I suggest you read Stuart McRobert's books, "Brawn" and "Beyond Brawn."
 
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its a matter of opinion.

personally, i went from 125 to 180 and my arms went from 12" to 15" with full body workouts and no direct arm work. ppl waste too much time training their arms and doing isolation work.

now once you have the mass, thats different.

but i've seen many, many times ppl make great gains with full body workouts. but of course, dont do it too much, mix it up. variety is key!!!!
 
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Apologist said:
Powerlifters are some of the biggest guys there are and they concentrate on three lifts: Squat, Deadlift and Bench Press.

Isolating muscle groups is fine once you are big already, but the foundation needs to be built first so you do exercises that use the biggest amount of muscles. I do Barbell squats, Deadlifts, chins, bench press, seated shoulder press and crunches. These are done twice a week on Wednesday and Saturday.

I suggest you read Stuart McRobert's books, "Brawn" and "Beyond Brawn."

I agree that a person must get a solid foundation built before working on isolating muscle groups, but I don't agree that doing bench press and squats on the same day is the best way of weight lifting. A person can do this, but I feel that separating major muscle groups on different day provides better growth. I have found from personal experience that doing a full body workout does not work for me, and most of my lifting friends don't do this either. To be honest, I see alot of women doing this type of workout( or something similar). Their goal is to tone up and build muscles for endurance. For a person just starting out lifting, this type of workout could be good to build a solid foundation and learn the correct form of each lift, before moving to a different lifting plan.

I don't know who Stuart McRobert's is.
 
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abear said:
its a matter of opinion.

personally, i went from 125 to 180 and my arms went from 12" to 15" with full body workouts and no direct arm work. ppl waste too much time training their arms and doing isolation work.

now once you have the mass, thats different.

but i've seen many, many times ppl make great gains with full body workouts. but of course, dont do it too much, mix it up. variety is key!!!!
Variety is the key.

What type of gym do you lift at?
 
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sledhead said:
Variety is the key.

What type of gym do you lift at?
true, find what works best for you.

that brawn book is very good.

i lift at home. dont have the time to lift at a gym. i wake up at 4am to train and i have to be at work for 6am.

i made my own squat rack, chin bar, etc, whatever i needed. :)
 
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abear said:
true, find what works best for you.

that brawn book is very good.

i lift at home. dont have the time to lift at a gym. i wake up at 4am to train and i have to be at work for 6am.

i made my own squat rack, chin bar, etc, whatever i needed. :)
I never could lift that early. I've tried several times, but I can't wake up enough to get a good lift in.
 
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sledhead said:
I never could lift that early. I've tried several times, but I can't wake up enough to get a good lift in.
i used to lift at 6:30 in the evening. i had finally made good progress, then i got married, got a promotion at work and bought a home. i was missing too many sessions and my training got very, very pathetic. including me. i got up to 200lbs with a 40" waist.

you ever saw a fat ectomorph? it isnt very pretty

i found dave drapers website and after reading his words i decided to start training first thing in the morning in december 2001. took so getting used to but now i love it. since then i've only missed 2 workouts whereas before it was getting to be 2 workouts a month.

its especially nice when i have a vaction day from work. to workout and go outside on my patio and drink my pwo shake and watch the sun rise.

great way to start a day!!!!!!:) :)
 
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One of the reasons powerlifters are larger than most is that we very rarely diet. A bodybuilder prepping for two contests a year may spend practically half of the year dieting, whereas your average powerlifter will spend maybe eight weeks or so dieting, which is a significant advantage.


Yes, I diet, but I am getting older. There was a time when I never worried about it either.
 
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