Is a Contiguous Count of Daniel’s 70 Weeks found in New Testament Writings?

Dave Watchman · Jun 10, 2022

Christian Gedge said:
Bump!
I forgot (my bad ) The man himself mentioned Daniel’s 70 weeks. Yes, Jesus! Any guesses where?

“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” - Mark 1:15

Jesus was talking about the Daniel 9 "Time".

The Man, the Son of Man, said this in 27AD, after the 7 and 62 were "fulfilled".

Dave Watchman · Jun 10, 2022

Christian Gedge said:
Bump!
I forgot (my bad ) The man himself mentioned Daniel’s 70 weeks. Yes, Jesus! Any guesses where?

And congratulations on the 144, and the 1290 likes.

Nice numbers.

Christian Gedge · Jun 10, 2022

Thanks Dave.

The verse I'm thinking of is when Peter asked Jesus how often should he forgive, then suggested what he thought was generous - "Up to seven times?"

"Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven." (Matt 18: 21-22)

Jesus answer was cryptic, but I think he was referring to the long era of forgiveness - 490 years - that God was giving his people Israel until he introduced his new covenant. I.O.W, if it was good enough for God to wait 70 times seven, its good enough for us to forgive 70 times seven too.

Just a thought. I'm sure Jesus had Daniel in mind when he made that statement.

Dave Watchman · Jun 11, 2022

Christian Gedge said:
"Then Peter came to Him and said, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven." (Matt 18: 21-22)
Jesus answer was cryptic, but I think he was referring to the long era of forgiveness - 490 years - that God was giving his people Israel until he introduced his new covenant. I.O.W, if it was good enough for God to wait 70 times seven, its good enough for us to forgive 70 times seven too.

I knew that one too.

And I know there's others, like my old friend Larry Wilson, who can add up 7 sets of 70 weeks from a 1437 Exodus, and extend them all the way to 1994 when Comet Shoemaker Levy 9 fragments impacted Jupiter 21 times.

But when Jesus said that the "time" was fulfilled early in Mark, that word 4137 pléroó was used.

Definition: to make full, to complete
Usage: I fill, fulfill, complete.

accomplish (1), accomplished (1), amply supplied (1), complete (1), completed (3), completing (1), elapsed (1), fill (3), filled (16), fills (1), finished (1), fulfill (20), fulfilled (20), fully carry (1), fully come (1), fully preached (1), increasing (1), made complete (2), made full (5), make...full (1), make...complete (1), passed (2), supply (1).

7 weeks and 62 weeks until Messiah the Prince. Time that was completed. This had a greater significance to the earlier announcements from John the Baptist, now the time itself was accomplished in 27AD, on the first year of the last heptad with the official appearance of Jesus.

It's also easy to check the count for Passover in 30AD. Even with these time and date calendars from the net. It's the only year in the vicinity that works out this way.

Count 15 days from the new moon of the first month and it takes us to Good Friday April 7, 30AD.

The middle of the heptad, and more "time", and a covenant confirmed.

And so I say these same time intervals have been completed once again now in a secondary count of the weeks, but I won't bother your thread with this today.

Take care Christian .

Peaceful Sabbath.

Timtofly · Jun 11, 2022

Dave Watchman said:
I knew that one too.

And I know there's others, like my old friend Larry Wilson, who can add up 7 sets of 70 weeks from a 1437 Exodus, and extend them all the way to 1994 when Comet Shoemaker Levy 9 fragments impacted Jupiter 21 times.

But when Jesus said that the "time" was fulfilled early in Mark, that word 4137 pléroó was used.

Definition: to make full, to complete
Usage: I fill, fulfill, complete.

accomplish (1), accomplished (1), amply supplied (1), complete (1), completed (3), completing (1), elapsed (1), fill (3), filled (16), fills (1), finished (1), fulfill (20), fulfilled (20), fully carry (1), fully come (1), fully preached (1), increasing (1), made complete (2), made full (5), make...full (1), make...complete (1), passed (2), supply (1).

7 weeks and 62 weeks until Messiah the Prince. Time that was completed. This had a greater significance to the earlier announcements from John the Baptist, now the time itself was accomplished in 27AD, on the first year of the last heptad with the official appearance of Jesus.

It's also easy to check the count for Passover in 30AD. Even with these time and date calendars from the net. It's the only year in the vicinity that works out this way.

Count 15 days from the new moon of the first month and it takes us to Good Friday April 7, 30AD.

The middle of the heptad, and more "time", and a covenant confirmed.

And so I say these same time intervals have been completed once again now in a secondary count of the weeks, but I won't bother your thread with this today.

Take care Christian .

Peaceful Sabbath.

That is the online calendar I use. Thursday is the 15 of Nissan. You claim the full moon had to be on Friday. But it could have been seen on Thursday, they just don't know, because there is no extant record of the exact day prior to a certain date, that any one can say this is the exact date. However the 15th only falls on Thursday that year in the 7 year cycle.

The Bible mentions that it was on the day of preparation, so they were preparing already. But the Cross was still on Wednesday, because 3 days and 3 nights only works out if the body was in the tomb Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and was gone early Sunday morning. Not that the calendar itself just happened to be exactly 30AD. Yet Adam had Seth at a 130 year point from something. One also has to account for the time Adam was in the Garden. Scripture also never tells us the date of Cain and Able's birth.

Dave Watchman · Jun 11, 2022

Timtofly said:
The Bible mentions that it was on the day of preparation, so they were preparing already.

This ones too tough. I don't want to step on Christian's toes.

I (THINK) Jesus had desired to eat the true Passover with His disciples on Thursday. Jesus was following conjunction on the correct day.

But the Old Time Jews were following the Babylonian method and were rushing to bury Jesus before sundown so they could eat an erroneous passover which was a day late on Friday.

I also believe Jesus, the Rock that followed them, to be the God of the Old Testament. So if Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, He must also be Lord of the Passover, and know how and when to eat it at the correct specifications.

"Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Peaceful Sabbath.

Christian Gedge · Jun 11, 2022

Dave Watchman said:
7 weeks and 62 weeks until Messiah the Prince. Time that was completed. This had a greater significance to the earlier announcements from John the Baptist, now the time itself was accomplished in 27AD, on the first year of the last heptad with the official appearance of Jesus.

Absolutely agree.
I have a bit in common with Larry Wilson too, but I don't track the 490-year cycles beyond Christ and the establishment of Christ's Church. Is Larry still alive?

Dave Watchman · Jun 11, 2022

Christian Gedge said:
I have a bit in common with Larry Wilson too, but I don't track the 490-year cycles beyond Christ and the establishment of Christ's Church. Is Larry still alive?

No, he died in January 2021. They were sending us letters. It was awful, he lost muscle control to stand and couldn't swallow food. It seemed like a curse, but he was positive all throughout. He got Lou Gehrig’s disease, ALS. He made it to 72.

But the main thing is we all love the Lord. Everything else is small potatoes.

Peaceful Sabbath.

FredVB · Aug 16, 2022

Dave Watchman said:
This ones too tough. I don't want to step on Christian's toes.

I (THINK) Jesus had desired to eat the true Passover with His disciples on Thursday. Jesus was following conjunction on the correct day.

But the Old Time Jews were following the Babylonian method and were rushing to bury Jesus before sundown so they could eat an erroneous passover which was a day late on Friday.

I also believe Jesus, the Rock that followed them, to be the God of the Old Testament. So if Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, He must also be Lord of the Passover, and know how and when to eat it at the correct specifications.

"Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Peaceful Sabbath.

It is missed by many that the unblemished Lamb at that last supper was Jesus himself. He did not need a lamb offered for him, or those with him, for he was pointing to himself for that. And he only used bread there, and wine there, to point to himself with, he did not use any other item of Passover that might have been used, with symbolism, the bread and the wine he used were enough.

I also lost my mother to ALS, Lou Gehrig's Disease, she lived to only several years younger than I am now.

DavidPT · Aug 16, 2022

FredVB said:
It is missed by many that the unblemished Lamb at that last supper was Jesus himself.

Just out of curiosity and not to get into an argument about it, why would you think any professed Christian somehow missed that fact? You said many have missed this fact. I don't know what you mean by many? Thousands? Millions? Billions?

Is a Contiguous Count of Daniel’s 70 Weeks found in New Testament Writings?