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"Now you know some things about physics... those towers collapsed at free-fall speed. Not quite fifteen seconds. The law of conservation of momentum would have predicted about forty-five seconds, had there in fact been resistance to the collapse at each floor. But there was no resistance... because the only explanation for the first three steel-frame buildings in the history of mankind to collapse as a result of fire, all on the same day, all in the same place, all at free-fall speed, all diving symmetrically into their own footprint, ladies and gentlemen has nothing to do with fire, but was in fact, a controlled demolition.
... Ten times the amount of dust that could be explained by the gravitational pull of a collapsing, burning building at whatever size. Ten times...
The testimony of fire fighters, police officers, battalion chiefs standing right there on the side-walk, outside of the buildings, hearing explosions. That's evidence. That is evidence.
The molten metal. Molten metal, in the basement of the ruins can only be explained by explosives. That is evidence.
The infrared satellite photographs taken weeks afterward of Ground Zero, where you see hot spots, well in excess of a thousand degrees, weeks after! The photographs admitted in evidence here, of the orange to red-hot pieces of steel being carried off, by these machines, is evidence."

"[On NIST's report]... their job was to explain to us why the World Trade Center towers collapsed. That was their job. [Reading the NIST report] 'The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from aircraft impact to the initiation of the collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the probable collapse sequence, although it does not actually include the structural behaviour of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and became inevitable.' (NIST. Pg. 82) ... For brevity, that is cover-up."

- Retired Public Defender William Veale
 

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There are just so many unanswered questions.
Exactly, and these are valid questions deserving of valid answers; not being asked by conspiracy 'theorists', but rather by patriots who see that the official explanation does not satisfy all such valid questions.
 
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Exactly, and these are valid questions deserving of valid answers; not being asked by conspiracy 'theorists', but rather by patriots who see that the official explanation does not satisfy all such valid questions.

Hello bjspurple,

I am not sure what anyone means by conspiracy 'theorists' in regards to 9/11. Are there any who are not? The official story is a conspiracy theory.
What also astounds me is that the burden of proof should be against our government given its history. Operation Northwoods is not a theoretical notion but a concrete fact of a plan to terrorize American citizens for a pretext by very high levels in our government. The Iranian hostage crises in the 70's did not provide us, at the time, with the knowledge of operation Ajax and how the CIA was getting its feet wet with false terror.

Remember the "incubator babies"? A complete lie.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

So how are the skeptics on the defensive so as to accept the the label of conspiracy theorist? The only explanation is the comfort of one's psychological refuge. We are opposed on that basis.
 
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Hello bjspurple,

I am not sure what anyone means by conspiracy 'theorists' in regards to 9/11. Are there any who are not? The official story is a conspiracy theory.
What also astounds me is that the burden of proof should be against our government given its history. Operation Northwoods is not a theoretical notion but a concrete fact of a plan to terrorize American citizens for a pretext by very high levels in our government. The Iranian hostage crises in the 70's did not provide us, at the time, with the knowledge of operation Ajax and how the CIA was getting its feet wet with false terror.

Remember the "incubator babies"? A complete lie.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html

So how are the skeptics on the defensive so as to accept the the label of conspiracy theorist? The only explanation is the comfort of one's psychological refuge. We are opposed on that basis.
That's a great point. The official account is itself a conspiracy theory, particularly one that does not take into account all the given evidence to offer satisfactory answers, and therefore, should not be taken as fact.
Also, given the history of government-sponsored terrorism, as you have mentioned, it would not be so ridiculous to question the motives of the higher-level government in this particular instance. Indeed, it appears that history does repeat itself, time and time again.
 
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"Now you know some things about physics... those towers collapsed at free-fall speed. Not quite fifteen seconds. The law of conservation of momentum would have predicted about forty-five seconds, had there in fact been resistance to the collapse at each floor. But there was no resistance... because the only explanation for the first three steel-frame buildings in the history of mankind to collapse as a result of fire, all on the same day, all in the same place, all at free-fall speed, all diving symmetrically into their own footprint, ladies and gentlemen has nothing to do with fire, but was in fact, a controlled demolition.
... Ten times the amount of dust that could be explained by the gravitational pull of a collapsing, burning building at whatever size. Ten times...
The testimony of fire fighters, police officers, battalion chiefs standing right there on the side-walk, outside of the buildings, hearing explosions. That's evidence. That is evidence.
The molten metal. Molten metal, in the basement of the ruins can only be explained by explosives. That is evidence.
The infrared satellite photographs taken weeks afterward of Ground Zero, where you see hot spots, well in excess of a thousand degrees, weeks after! The photographs admitted in evidence here, of the orange to red-hot pieces of steel being carried off, by these machines, is evidence."

"[On NIST's report]... their job was to explain to us why the World Trade Center towers collapsed. That was their job. [Reading the NIST report] 'The focus of the Investigation was on the sequence of events from aircraft impact to the initiation of the collapse for each tower. For brevity in this report, this sequence is referred to as the probable collapse sequence, although it does not actually include the structural behaviour of the tower after the conditions for collapse initiation were reached and became inevitable.' (NIST. Pg. 82) ... For brevity, that is cover-up."
- Retired Public Defender William Veale

Yes the Illuminati has influence over the Austarlian and American governemnts as they do every Governement on earth.

The Illuminati used islam to carry out 9-11.

Did you know the Illuminati made Yasser Arafat a Billionaire??

The point is all Governments have had this happen...

Revelations 16 : 14They are spirits of demons performing miraculous signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.

Could the Kings of the world not know these demons are demons??

Could these "miraculous signs" be new weapons,new strategic plans, new Scientific discoveries, etc. etc. ???
 
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The first question was probably: a plane went through the towers? Not quite a CONTROLLED demolition but a lot more than a fire for certain.

Hello TheFathersDaughter,

Yes planes hit 2 of the 3 buildings. that means one fell without being hit by a plane. We are also looking design failures because they did consider this and designed the building to be hit by planes of this size. the design therefore failed twice and a third fell from debris. So should this not be a scandal in it of itself? Why should we believe an elevator may hold 2500 lbs when an engineers says so? Architects told us these buildings could be hit by planes?
What further baffles me is the supposed difficulty of insiders having influence being way too difficult. I see. Being an insider in my own house makes it more difficult to enter.....???

My theory believes that there were insiders because it would make it easy. Even if it were Al Qaeda it would generally be easier with insiders. I am told it would take thousands of people on the inside to pull such a stunt because of how difficult it would be. However from the out side it took only 19 people. Does anyone really thing it would take a few days to find these people and then not one insider was suspected? We were completely fooled before the act and then following it only took days to unravel this?

Even if it was a true terrorist act with no inside help what is likely to follow is what many in power wanted to do anyway and the terrorism is just an excuse. Its really not that much different than it used to be. World leaders always acted this way. When they saw a resource they took it. Only with cameras and TV news the average person can see what is going on a little more so they need a good cover story.

Oil companies were meeting with the Taliban in the 1990s in 5 star hotels for a trans-Afghanistan pipeline.

http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

I have no good reason to believe the official report although I do find it the most comforting explanation. No one hopes I am wrong more than me.

The fundamental lesson for me is our enemy is not far away it is near. Our friends are not only near but also far away. There is only one way to fight this and it is a war of attrition. The war is fought like this. Here are the instructions for the revolution:

Romans 12
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them. 15Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep. 16Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly;* do not claim to be wiser than you are. 17Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all. 18If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God;* for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’ 20No, ‘if your enemies are hungry, feed them; if they are thirsty, give them something to drink; for by doing this you will heap burning coals on their heads.’ 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
 
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The illuminati is in every Government.

So I figure when the US economy collapses I'll just have perfect credit and some cash and get mega rich on foreclosures.There were more millionaires made in 1 day when the stock market fell in the 30's than any other time in history even still today.

I think Branson would still be as safe a place as anyone can live until whatever comes to pass comes to pass.I love it there.

I trust God completely and know I will not be put through more than I can handle he promises that.

I love verse 30
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Matthew 24 : 4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
9"Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

21For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. 22If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.

29"Immediately after the distress of those days
" 'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'[c]

30"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.


I LOVE THESE VERSES
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Matthew 6 : 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life[b]?
28"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

36Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, "Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field." 37He answered, "The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. 40"As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. 41The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.

Mark 4 : 17But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 18Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word; 19but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful. 20Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop—thirty, sixty or even a hundred times what was sown."

Luke 21 : 34"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. 35For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."

Romans 4 : 18Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations, just as it had been said to him, "So shall your offspring be."[d] 19Without weakening in his faith, he faced the fact that his body was as good as dead—since he was about a hundred years old—and that Sarah's womb was also dead. 20Yet he did not waver through unbelief regarding the promise of God, but was strengthened in his faith and gave glory to God, 21being fully persuaded that God had power to do what he had promised. 22This is why "it was credited to him as righteousness." 23The words "it was credited to him" were written not for him alone, 24but also for us, to whom God will credit righteousness—for us who believe in him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead. 25He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.

Phillippians 2 : 5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
Shining as Stars

12Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, 13for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.
14Do everything without complaining or arguing, 15so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe 16as you hold out[c] the word of life—in order that I may boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor for nothing. 17But even if I am being poured out like a drink offering on the sacrifice and service coming from your faith, I am glad and rejoice with all of you. 18So you too should be glad and rejoice with me.

Jude 1

1Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James,
To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by[a] Jesus Christ: 2Mercy, peace and love be yours in
Jude 1

1Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James,
To those who have been called, who are loved by God the Father and kept by[a] Jesus Christ: 2Mercy, peace and love be yours in abundance.
abundance.

( those who have not been called )

8In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings. 9But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" 10Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand; and what things they do understand by instinct, like unreasoning animals—these are the very things that destroy them.
"See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15to judge everyone, and to convict all the ungodly of all the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words ungodly sinners have spoken against him." 16These men are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.

17But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." 19These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
20But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. 21Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. 22Be merciful to those who doubt; 23snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh. 24To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— 25to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
 
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Hello TheFathersDaughter,

Yes planes hit 2 of the 3 buildings. that means one fell without being hit by a plane. We are also looking design failures because they did consider this and designed the building to be hit by planes of this size. the design therefore failed twice and a third fell from debris. So should this not be a scandal in it of itself? Why should we believe an elevator may hold 2500 lbs when an engineers says so? Architects told us these buildings could be hit by planes?
What further baffles me is the supposed difficulty of insiders having influence being way too difficult. I see. Being an insider in my own house makes it more difficult to enter.....???

My theory believes that there were insiders because it would make it easy. Even if it were Al Qaeda it would generally be easier with insiders. I am told it would take thousands of people on the inside to pull such a stunt because of how difficult it would be. However from the out side it took only 19 people. Does anyone really thing it would take a few days to find these people and then not one insider was suspected? We were completely fooled before the act and then following it only took days to unravel this?

Even if it was a true terrorist act with no inside help what is likely to follow is what many in power wanted to do anyway and the terrorism is just an excuse. Its really not that much different than it used to be. World leaders always acted this way. When they saw a resource they took it. Only with cameras and TV news the average person can see what is going on a little more so they need a good cover story.

Oil companies were meeting with the Taliban in the 1990s in 5 star hotels for a trans-Afghanistan pipeline.

http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Timeline.htm

I have no good reason to believe the official report although I do find it the most comforting explanation. No one hopes I am wrong more than me.

The fundamental lesson for me is our enemy is not far away it is near. Our friends are not only near but also far away. There is only one way to fight this and it is a war of attrition. The war is fought like this. Here are the instructions for the revolution:

Romans 12

...and you have those that knew of the impending attack and did nothing to prevent it.
 
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Matthew 24 : 4Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,[a]' and will deceive many.

At that time if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or, 'There he is!' do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. 25See, I have told you ahead of time.


Matthew 6 : 26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27Who of you by worrying can add a single hour to his life[b]?
28"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.


Jude 1
17But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires." 19These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
20But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. 21Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. 22Be merciful to those who doubt; 23snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh. 24To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy— 25to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.

Excellent use of Scripture! ;) Very powerful verses too!
Christ has forewarned us to beware, to question the received reality of what we see and hear. This statement is so highly valid especially now in an age of misinformation.
I believe that the once-noble press has been hijacked by those that would use (or rather misuse) this powerful tool for their own devices, and it has thus become the corporate media establishment- a massive propaganda machine driving the cause of vapid consumerism, only ever showing a glimpse of reality, quite often distorted beyond due proportion.
Therefore, given Jesus' good advice to be cautious, for there are 'wolves in sheep's clothing' who would seek to lead us astray from the Truth, by varying means, we are advised by our Lord to question the received reality of the events and motives of what goes on in the world around us.

Mt. 6: 26-33 is one of my favourite verses.:clap:
 
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Building 7 seems to be the loose thread. Start pulling and it all starts to unravel...

It is interesting to look at current events through the lens of end-times prophecy! The day grows closer!

I believe that the Federal Reserve will crash very soon, and that will make it easier to move to a cashless, worldwide, "payment system". The Real ID act is another step closer to the mark of the beast.

It is comforting to know how this will turn out, and that in the end, victory still belongs to our LORD!
 
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Building 7 seems to be the loose thread. Start pulling and it all starts to unravel...

It is interesting to look at current events through the lens of end-times prophecy! The day grows closer!

I believe that the Federal Reserve will crash very soon, and that will make it easier to move to a cashless, worldwide, "payment system". The Real ID act is another step closer to the mark of the beast.

It is comforting to know how this will turn out, and that in the end, victory still belongs to our LORD!

Hello teishpriest,

I always find myself in the strange position of being on either side of the end time interpretations being a partial preterist and one who doubts the official accounts of 9/11. For example I belief that Christian Zionism, JWs and Mormonism was funded by Jewish Zionism to help their cause. I doubt the state of Israel would do so well without the latter day movements. So in other words I see 9/11 as being another piece of the puzzle to secure Israel and certainly oil along side it. However I am as inclined to believe we are in early in Revelation 20 as anything else.
As to the Federal reserve I am not so sure of a collapse so to speak. Quite simply the dollar with continue to weaken as the Fed becomes the only buyer of debt as opposed to Asia. On the other hand they could just make borrowing impossible and simply sell the US out to Asia if they wish. This means the standard of living in the US may be expected to drop. Any collapse will be artificial and be a move towards a bigger and better scam. The current federal reserve system is based upon debt and willingness to go into debt or to lend. Not a stable system at all and is so by design. All one has to do is look at Wall Street to see what they think of low volatility. They hate it. What do you need them for with stable currency? A slightly inflationary and unstable currency is exactly what they want as it puts phantom profits on the books and apparent value added in managing the volatility. Meanwhile the banks rake in the profits from being in on the initial inflationary cycles. The banks create most of the new money. First one with new money wins because it is before the shelves are empty at the given price. The current system will need to be replaced by a better scam and the current one is a good one.
 
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Building 7 seems to be the loose thread. Start pulling and it all starts to unravel...

It is interesting to look at current events through the lens of end-times prophecy! The day grows closer!

I believe that the Federal Reserve will crash very soon, and that will make it easier to move to a cashless, worldwide, "payment system". The Real ID act is another step closer to the mark of the beast.

It is comforting to know how this will turn out, and that in the end, victory still belongs to our LORD!
It is certainly interesting how many globalist elite figures manipulate events to their agenda. The direction we are heading towards is a Big Brother surveillance society, with a microchiped population, tracked, tagged and controlled, locked into a cashless control grid.
Through the lens of end-time prophesy, such events do seem to be coming to pass, thus it is important to be aware as Christ has told us to be, to question the received reality of events and particularly the motivations of the powers that be.
 
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Hello teishpriest,

I always find myself in the strange position of being on either side of the end time interpretations being a partial preterist and one who doubts the official accounts of 9/11. For example I belief that Christian Zionism, JWs and Mormonism was funded by Jewish Zionism to help their cause. I doubt the state of Israel would do so well without the latter day movements. So in other words I see 9/11 as being another piece of the puzzle to secure Israel and certainly oil along side it. However I am as inclined to believe we are in early in Revelation 20 as anything else.
As to the Federal reserve I am not so sure of a collapse so to speak. Quite simply the dollar with continue to weaken as the Fed becomes the only buyer of debt as opposed to Asia. On the other hand they could just make borrowing impossible and simply sell the US out to Asia if they wish. This means the standard of living in the US may be expected to drop. Any collapse will be artificial and be a move towards a bigger and better scam. The current federal reserve system is based upon debt and willingness to go into debt or to lend. Not a stable system at all and is so by design. All one has to do is look at Wall Street to see what they think of low volatility. They hate it. What do you need them for with stable currency? A slightly inflationary and unstable currency is exactly what they want as it puts phantom profits on the books and apparent value added in managing the volatility. Meanwhile the banks rake in the profits from being in on the initial inflationary cycles. The banks create most of the new money. First one with new money wins because it is before the shelves are empty at the given price. The current system will need to be replaced by a better scam and the current one is a good one.


gwynedd1, I, pretty much believe like you part preterist leaning toward full. The full, only because I like the idea of living as if we are in God's Presence NOW, which when you think about it we really are as he knows our hearts, minds and souls. I think God is way bigger than any book this includes the Bible and to limit him to an end time script is ridiculous. Where is peoples mustard seed?
 
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gwynedd1, I, pretty much believe like you part preterist leaning toward full. The full, only because I like the idea of living as if we are in God's Presence NOW, which when you think about it we really are as he knows our hearts, minds and souls. I think God is way bigger than any book this includes the Bible and to limit him to an end time script is ridiculous. Where is peoples mustard seed?
A priest once told his congregation, to God, there is neither past nor future, only present- what my Religious Education teacher called the "Eternal Now"
 
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Regardless of one's view of 911, whether it was as the official narrative stipulates or a state-synthesized terror attack, one thing remains abundantly clear... that elite figures have used this crisis as a catalyst and pretext for:
A.) The initiation of an extremely costly war which earns massive profits for certain groups, especially arms manufacturers and the banks responsible for the financing which will reap the gigantic interests.
B.) The justification for relinquishing civil liberties, thereby gradually diminishing the autonomy of the individual and granting the state greater power over the person. Furthermore, this has become a justification for the composition of systems of surveillance making the notion of a 'Big Brother' Orwellian police state not so fictional. Justification? National security... everyone is suspect.
C.) Obtaining US access and control over an increasingly scarce commodity- oil.
D.) Obtaining the US a key strategic geopolitical foothold in the Middle East.
 
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