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We're not being rude, we are trying to get white people to call the police on us. While the police were not called in this case, the feeling of discomfort is victory enough. We'll discuss how we can modify our behavior so that the police will be called.
I don't think you quite understand what I am saying. Per the tag of this thread, I am confirming that these scenarios are indeed setups, but they are part of a broader campaign.No, he said THEY (that particular group of people) wanted attention. There was no "we" in there at all.
Exactly, that's what we want. The police should be called on people shopping stores.This sounds like disturbing the peace. Record the incident and call the police next time.
We're creating scenarios to make white people uncomfortable so they can call the police.
We're not being rude, we are trying to get white people to call the police on us.
We were setting you up, that's why we're doing it!
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is an organization that seeks to make white people uncomfortable.
Exactly, yes. Adults should know how to behave themselves in public or shop online instead.Exactly, that's what we want. The police should be called on people shopping stores.
@SummerMadness This sounds all a bit much. Completely changed my opinion to one which now thinks your group is troublemaking rather than a genuine cause.
I deleted the part asking whether there was sarcasm during an edit.You actually make a good point. Though his posts are sarcastic, why fuel an already out of control fire with sarcasm, and chance making things even worse?
I deleted the part asking whether there was sarcasm during an edit.
I guess you know how many ppl in Latin America feel when some visitors from North America come into a room...I witnessed something weird the other day. Just wanted to let you guys know.
Some folks have claimed that a number of (but not all) supposedly racist non-violent events that garner huge amounts of media attention are, in fact, staged. I got this impression with the Starbuck's incident. If an African-American is behaving oddly, rudely, unprofessionally, or illegally (yet not violently), a white person can not say anything to them or make any demands on their behavior, lest they be called racist.
The other day in my place of work, a group of five or six African-American women came in, and they were LOUD. Not like normal loud, or jovial, but so loud that everyone in our large store could hear them. Screaming. At eachother and in general, unnecessarily. The whole time. Other customers looked visibly uncomfortable, and shot me nervous, concerned "can't you do anything?" looks. I asked a manager what we could do, and let me know that all we could do was provide excellent customer service. Ok. So I went up to them (they were shopping, not loitering) and just let them know that if they needed anything, to please let me know. They got up in my face jeering and laughing then walked away mocking me. Still incredibly loud. Had I politely asked them to lower their volume, I have *no doubt* that it would have spiraled downwards into a charged, racial incident. Something about the whole encounter felt like a set up.
Maybe you do not get what I was saying. Your campaign makes an assumption that is not always true: that whoever is the object of your set up would see and react in some sort of racist way.I don't think you quite understand what I am saying. Per the tag of this thread, I am confirming that these scenarios are indeed setups, but they are part of a broader campaign.
No, I turned phone to the side to look at the signature and decided that the person was in earnest and not trolling after reading another thread.Hope you didn't think I was accusing you of fueling the fire...you post was fine the way it was as far as I'm concerned.My point was, why be sarcastic when some will take it wrong and that could make things worse.
I guess you know how many ppl in Latin America feel when some visitors from North America come into a room...
I'm saying that if one is going to start the narrative in the OP, this is something that people outside North America are already thoroughly familiar with (the Monroe Doctrine probably having something to do with it).Everybody knows how everyone feels when people are rude...
Are some of you actually saying Americans and/or whites don't know Americans and whites can be obnoxious?
There is no country in this world without some obnoxious people.
I'm saying that if one is going to start the narrative in the OP, this is something that people outside North America are already thoroughly familiar with (the Monroe Doctrine probably having something to do with it).
No, I was thinking of kids growing up hearing of the issue. Seeing the publicity stunts first hand, seeing people with a grudge being angry towards white people. The children then stigmatising black people as a whole because of it.As to questions of new racism. If you're asking if BLM is seeking to restructure society where white people are a marginalized group, institutions are setup to deny them freedoms, property, education, and employment, that last for hundreds of years, and afterward the police are used to "keep them in check," yes, we're looking to create that new racism.
But we want the publicity, those men weren't simply there for a meeting, it was a publicity stunt. That student didn't simply fall asleep, it was a publicity stunt. That man wasn't simply moving into his apartment, it was a publicity stunt. That family having a barbecue weren't trying to enjoy an afternoon in the park, it was a publicity stunt...No, I was thinking of kids growing up hearing of the issue. Seeing the publicity stunts first hand, seeing people with a grudge being angry towards white people. The children then stigmatising black people as a whole because of it.
I meant in the next generation.
No, I was thinking of kids growing up hearing of the issue. Seeing the publicity stunts first hand, seeing people with a grudge being angry towards white people. The children then stigmatising black people as a whole because of it.
I meant in the next generation.
Which makes little logical sense to me! Why would that benefit the cause rather than to divide?But we want the publicity, those men weren't simply there for a meeting, it was a publicity stunt. That student didn't simply fall asleep, it was a publicity stunt. That man wasn't simply moving into his apartment, it was a publicity stunt. That family having a barbecue weren't trying to enjoy an afternoon in the park, it was a publicity stunt...
And our publicity worked because we're trying to agitate. When a group of people are loud in a store, we don't want them to think they're simply loud, we want them to think of their blackness, become resentful of that blackness and then blame BLM because they are fixated on the race of customers who broke no laws or rules.
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