Instructive Comparisons #3

[WAB]

INSTRUCTIVE COMPARISONS #3
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In reference to: UNLIMITED ATONEMENT
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Romans 2:4... “…do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?”

1 Timothy 2:1-4.… “…I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

2 Peter 2:1... “But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.”

2 Peter 3:9... “The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”

There is much to be gained from these Scriptures in understanding the love of our Wonderful Saviour for all, including the false teachers whom He bought and paid for with His precious blood shed on Calvary’s Cross, but who nevertheless reject that love and are headed for destruction. But the primary point here is to show that there is no difference between what Paul spoke/taught/wrote, and what Peter spoke/taught/wrote in reference to many foundational doctrines of the faith.

Shalom… WAB

 

[eph3Nine]

peter was a minister TO the circumcision...Paul was a minister to the UNcircumcision. Never the twain shall meet EXCEPT in the MYSTERY program given to Paul , for we the Body of Christ.

Things that are Different are NOT the same.

 

[thereselittleflower]

I have presented facts which contradict your claims right and left, yet you persist in ignoring those facts and go on as if they didn't exist.


Peter and Paul both preached the same gospel, the Gospel of God

Peter and Paul both preached the same kingdom, the kingdom of Christ

Both Peter and Paul, each, were commissioned by God to go to both the Jews and the Gentiles . . .


Peter lived as a gentile and ate with the gentiles . .


all these things, and others, you have absolutely ignored . . .


When are you going to deal with them?


Are you just going to keep starting new threads in hopes that people won't notice you are ignoring thiese facts?


Why are you being intellectually dishonest with us?



Peace

 

[WAB]

peter was a minister TO the circumcision...Paul was a minister to the UNcircumcision. Never the twain shall meet EXCEPT in the MYSTERY program given to Paul , for we the Body of Christ.

Things that are Different are NOT the same.

Please eph... deal with the Scriptures presented in #3... don't just continue with unsubstantiated declarations.

Shalom... WAB

 

[eph3Nine]

LOL...scripture DOES say exactly that...its been quoted and typed MANY times...you simply chose to ignore it. So be it. Peter was given the gospel of the circumcision and Paul the gospel of the UNcircumcision. Do a word search. BOTH are there...I count two gospels...hmmmmm.

 

[WAB]

peter was a minister TO the circumcision...Paul was a minister to the UNcircumcision. Never the twain shall meet EXCEPT in the MYSTERY program given to Paul , for we the Body of Christ.

Things that are Different are NOT the same.

Good to see that at last you have admitted to the error of using "of" and have switched to "TO".

Sooo... shalom... WAB

 

[thereselittleflower]

LOL...scripture DOES say exactly that...its been quoted and typed MANY times...you simply chose to ignore it. So be it. Peter was given the gospel of the circumcision and Paul the gospel of the UNcircumcision. Do a word search. BOTH are there...I count two gospels...hmmmmm.

At leaset you are using the word "To" now instead of "of" . . .

But you have NEVER addressed this:



You are ignoring the fact that the scriptures state that

BOTH Peter and Paul preached the SAME Gospel The Gospel of GOD

PAUL

Rom 15:16​

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That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
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PETER

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?


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BOTH Peter and Paul preached the SAME Kingdom, The Kingdom of CHRIST

PAUL

Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.


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PETER

2Pe 1:11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.


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BOTH Peter and Paul were commissioned by GOD, individually, to each go to BOTH the Jews and the GENTILES.

PAUL

Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he (PAUL) is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:


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PETER

Act 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
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You can continue to posture all you want, but it is evident to EVERYONE by now that you are IGNORING these scriptures . . .


DEAL with these versese . . . . in a multiiplicity of threads now they have been brought to your attention.

Yet you CONTINUE TO IGNORE SCRIPTURE!


Why is it that you don't think what scripture has to say is important eph?



Of course, this is what people do who can't defend their claims in the light of scripture to the contrary.


When you are willing to be intellectually honest wth us, we can discuss this further.



Peace

 

[eph3Nine]

Good to see that at last you have admitted to the error of using "of" and have switched to "TO".

Sooo... shalom... WAB

LOL....I dont see where it really makes that much of a difference, myself, but hey...I aim to please. If it will get you to looking at the REAL issue of the verse, which is that there ARE indeed TWO separate gospels...then it has achieved its purpose.

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;Galatians 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the GentilesGalatians 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

 

[thereselittleflower]

Still waiting eph . . .


Here is another one for you

Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God
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KINGDOM .singular . . . . .. not plural


The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Christ are one and the same.


There is ONE Kingdom .. not two. . .



Peace

 

[eph3Nine]

little flower...I hope you arent answering me, cuz I cannot see your posts....wink...you are on my ignore list.

 

[thereselittleflower]

You canignore all you want eph . . others will be able to more clearly see how your claims are not supported by scripture.

If you choose not to deal with the evidence I submit that contradicts your claims, then it will be obvious there is no defense for your position.

You gain nothing by ignoring the evidence . . you loose.


Peace