Inside The Ka'bah

[Oxy2Hydr0]

This is what the inside the Ka'bah looks like. There is no Idol that is inside the Ka'bah which has been propagated by anti Islamic websites and non-muslim western writers.

 

[Toboe]

Ok, I get your not and Idol worshiper.

 

[vajradhara]

Salaam Oxy,


from whence did you derive this picture?

metta,

~v

 

[indianx]

http://www.saleel.com/gallery/albums/Kaaba/kaaba_085.jpg

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

This is the link to the Gallery of the Ka'bah http://www.saleel.com/gallery/Kaaba/kaaba_085

 

[rahma]

mashaAllah! It's one of my fondest hopes to see the inside of the Kabba one day.

 

[Jason of Wyoming]

I thought the idols were removed by Mohammed?

Why would anyone think that they were still there?

 

[arunma]

I thought the idols were removed by Mohammed?

Why would anyone think that they were still there?

As the story goes...

Before Mohammed, there were many idols in the Kaba, one of which was Allah. The Arabic tribes used to worship Allah among these other gods. But Mohammed removed all of the idols except for Allah's image. And so now, millions of Muslims are worshiping one false idol instead of many.

Obviously, this story is nothing more than anti-Islamic propaganda. But I just thought I'd summarize it for your information.

 

[Jason of Wyoming]

Don't suppose that the image of Allah looked anything like this?

 

[NOTW]

Don't suppose that the image of Allah looked anything like this?

It looks more like an ancient Egyptian monument!

 

[indianx]

It's El.

 

[arunma]

El? Well that explains why it resembles an Egyptian deity, since the Egyptians were most likely familiar with middle eastern paganism.

 

[NOTW]

El? Well that explains why it resembles an Egyptian deity, since the Egyptians were most likely familiar with middle eastern paganism.

most likely familiar with?
Have you forgotten Egypt was once an actual Middle-Eastern pagan country?

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

Don't suppose that the image of Allah looked anything like this?

Well lets see, what did the Quran say over 1400 years ago about Alllaah among the pagan who worshipped Idols.

No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things. 6:103

When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Alllah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it crumble to dust. And Moses fell down unconscious. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." 7:143


He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Hidden: and He has full knowledge of all things. 57:3

And there is none comparable to Him 112:4


Nope, the Idol image you posted doesnt even come close. You cannot even fathom to imagine Alllaah must less see Him

Now what were the pagans concept of Alllah whom they could not see ?

[17:90] They(the pagans) say: "We shall not believe in thee(Muhammad), until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth,

[17:91] "Or (until) thou have a garden of date trees and vines, and cause rivers to gush forth in their midst, carrying abundant water,

[17:92] "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us, or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face;

[2:210] Will they(the pagans) wait until Allah comes to them in canopies of clouds, with angels (in His train) and the question is (thus) settled? But to Allah do all questions go back (for decision).

Allah not recognized as one of the Idols by the pagans :

[29:17] "For you (pagans) do worship idols other than Allah, and ye invent falsehood. The things that ye worship besides Allah have no power to give you sustenance: then seek ye sustenance from Allah, serve Him, and be grateful to Him: to Him will be your return.

Have a nice day

 

[Jason of Wyoming]

El? Well that explains why it resembles an Egyptian deity, since the Egyptians were most likely familiar with middle eastern paganism.

Paganism? Considering that's the "father" your Jesus prayed too, perhaps you should re-word your statement.

 

[Jason of Wyoming]

Well lets see, what did the Quran say over 1400 years ago about Alllaah among the pagan who worshipped Idols.

No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things. 6:103

When Moses came to the place appointed by Us, and his Lord addressed him, He said: "O my Lord! show (Thyself) to me, that I may look upon thee." Alllah said: "By no means canst thou see Me (direct); But look upon the mount; if it abide in its place, then shalt thou see Me." When his Lord manifested His glory on the Mount, He made it crumble to dust. And Moses fell down unconscious. When he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to Thee! to Thee I turn in repentance, and I am the first to believe." 7:143


He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Hidden: and He has full knowledge of all things. 57:3

And there is none comparable to Him 112:4


Nope, the Idol image you posted doesnt even come close. You cannot even fathom to imagine Alllaah must less see Him

Now what were the pagans concept of Alllah whom they could not see ?

[17:90] They(the pagans) say: "We shall not believe in thee(Muhammad), until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth,

[17:91] "Or (until) thou have a garden of date trees and vines, and cause rivers to gush forth in their midst, carrying abundant water,

[17:92] "Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou sayest (will happen), against us, or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face;

[2:210] Will they(the pagans) wait until Allah comes to them in canopies of clouds, with angels (in His train) and the question is (thus) settled? But to Allah do all questions go back (for decision).

Allah not recognized as one of the Idols by the pagans :

[29:17] "For you (pagans) do worship idols other than Allah, and ye invent falsehood. The things that ye worship besides Allah have no power to give you sustenance: then seek ye sustenance from Allah, serve Him, and be grateful to Him: to Him will be your return.

Have a nice day

El is the god of abraham. Yahweh didn't show up until the days of Moses.

Or didn't you realize that the root of Al'lah....Il'lah....Il...El...it's all the same.

Jews, Muslims, Christians.....El is your god.

Granted this statuette is Canaanite in origin, it's still the same god.

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

Or didn't you realize that the root of Al'lah....Il'lah....Il...El...it's all the same.

The Following are Classical Arabic Scholars. One is a Christian and the other is Muslims whom comment on the name Allah quoting other supreme Arabic authority :

• " الله{alllaah}, [written with the disjunctive alif الله, meaning God, i.e. the only true god,] accord. to the most correct opinions respecting it, which are twenty in number, (K,) or more than thirty, (MF,) is a proper name, (Msb, K,) applied to the Being who exists necessarily, by Himself, comprising all the attributes of perfection; (TA )a proper name denoting the true god, comprising all the excellent divine names; a unity comprising all the essence of existing things; (Ibn-El’Arabee, TA ) the ال being inseparable from it: (Msb: ) not derived.....

• "Edward William Lane, Arabic Lexicon

• "Allah - It is the proper noun applied to the Supreme Being, who is the sole possesor of all perfect attributes, who is free from all defects and who exist necessarily by Himself. It is not a common noun. All Divine attributes mentioned in the Quran are qualities of the proper name Allah. No other language has a distinctive name for the Divine Being. The names found in other languages are either attributive or descriptive and can be used in the plural form, but the word Allah is never used for any other thing, being or deity. It is never used as a qualifying word. Sibwaih and Khalil say, Since "Al" in the begining of the word Allah is inseperable from it so it is a simple substantive, not derived from any word. The word Allah is not a contraction of al-ilah, as some people tend to believe, but quite a different word.

• "The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar

Perhaps you need to stay away from English dictionaries to find out what the etymology of a non-English word is. The majority of Arabicist conclude that the name Allah is not derived from the word "El" or "al-ilah" whereas non-Arabicists resort to the ficticious assumption that it is based on linguistics which is ambigious.

 

[Jason of Wyoming]

Perhaps you need to stay away from English dictionaries to find our what the etymology of a non-English word is. The majority of Arabicist conclude that the name Allah is not derived from the word "El" or "al-ilah" whereas non-Arabicists resort to the ficticious assumption that it is based on linguistics which is ambigious.

Or perhaps your Arabicists are so desperate to distance themselves from the obvious "pagan" past, that they purposely distort the facts.

Never trust an apologist, christian or muslim.

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

I am still waiting for your Arabic authorities on the matter

 

[Oxy2Hydr0]

Please provide your facts, where is your Arabic dictionaries or Lexicons that advocates that the name Alllaah is derived from El or a contraction of "al-ilah". Also just to let your know Edward W Lane is an Arabic Christian Scholar not a Muslim.