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Only God's love is sane, everything outside of his perfection is complete insanity. You're insane and probably everyone you've ever known is aswell.

Does'nt it make sense that there is only one truth underneath everything? And that truth is simply the absense of what you have used your free will to create? And if we do have absolute free will and are concious spiritual beings in nature can we not use it to return to our roots which connect us to the divine love of God directly?

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. John 3:2

"When he appears we shall be like him".. in otherwords we must be like him in order for him to appear.. "we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is."
 

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It's entries like yours that show why it is so important to read verses carefully.

Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. (1 John 3:2 ESV)

How can a Christian become any more a child of God? A child is a child is a child.... therefore we do not have to do anything but believe in God.

Beloved, we are God's children now - that is what you ignored. You know you are not a child of God. What are you going to do about it? Hint: Romans 10:6-13
 
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Only God's love is sane, everything outside of his perfection is complete insanity. You're insane and probably everyone you've ever known is aswell.
According to your statement here, you're insane too. Why then should one take your statement as true?

Does'nt it make sense that there is only one truth underneath everything? And that truth is simply the absense of what you have used your free will to create? And if we do have absolute free will and are concious spiritual beings in nature can we not use it to return to our roots which connect us to the divine love of God directly?
Maybe. Maybe there are multiple truths under one thing. I certainly wouldn't say that truth is the absence of what I used my free will to create, since what I used my free will to create can be present. I believe God needs to to aid us to get back to the roots, and that we don't really have absolute free will. We have free will, but it is tainted with the inclination to drive further from God instead of the the 'roots.'
 
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It's entries like yours that show why it is so important to read verses carefully.

Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. (1 John 3:2 ESV)

How can a Christian become any more a child of God? A child is a child is a child.... therefore we do not have to do anything but believe in God.

Beloved, we are God's children now - that is what you ignored. You know you are not a child of God. What are you going to do about it? Hint: ...

I'm not trying to argue but the words themselves are meaningless if you take them too seriously and break them down into such small segments, but if you would like to play that game, I will too. There are many winding roads you can take but they all lead to the same place and they can be as complex and long or as short and straight as you truely want it to be.

Beloved, we are God's children now - Was this John speaking? If it was not Jesus' words than why believe them with such devotion, as if whoever simply wrote in the bible became undisputably true. He was saying that we are his children now, at this moment, not forever. In the very next verse: All who have this hope in him purify themselves, just as he is pure. -John 3:3 Is'nt he saying that you can become just like God very clearly?

And why would a father ever deny his child himself?
 
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According to your statement here, you're insane too. Why then should one take your statement as true?

I am insane because I am currently denying the love of God for my own self created perception, as is almost everyone else. Though I am also a witness to the truth and therein lies the difference between us.

Maybe. Maybe there are multiple truths under one thing. I certainly wouldn't say that truth is the absence of what I used my free will to create, since what I used my free will to create can be present. I believe God needs to to aid us to get back to the roots, and that we don't really have absolute free will. We have free will, but it is tainted with the inclination to drive further from God instead of the the 'roots.'

I understand but your will is still completely free and one day it will be used correctly.
 
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