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I reject evolution because it is not true, no other reason.
Why do you care? It's not as if the truth or falsity of the theory of evolution had much direct influence on our daily lives.
Oh, and Professor Tour invites anyone to refute his OOL claims. No one has because no one can.
This discussion is not about the origin of life. You could start a new thread if you wanted.
 
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When scientists conflate adaptation and evolution, that is dishonest.
Not if they're using the ecological or evolutionary definition:

"In ecology, the term adaptation pertains to the adjustment or changes in behavior, physiology, and structure of an organism to become more suited or fit to an environment. According to Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection, the organisms adapt to their environment to become better fitted to survive and passing their genes on to the next generation."
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"Adaptation, in biology, has several meanings. It can mean the adjustment of living matter to environmental conditions and to other living things either in an organism's lifetime (physiological adaptation) or in a population over many many generations (evolutionary adaptation). The word can also refer to a trait that is considered an adaptation. The ability to adapt is a fundamental property of life and constitutes a basic difference between living and nonliving matter."
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Anyone with a passing familiarity with science in general should be aware that words used may have different meanings to the colloquial usages. Specialised usage in restricted domains is known as 'jargon'.
 
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Industry is another more practical level of peer review that gets ignored. If something is solid science and it works, industry will find a way to use it to make money. If it doesn't work it doesn't get used. This is why oil companies don't use divination, spellcraft or creationist flood geology to search for oil. It's also why Google, Microsoft, Amazon and all the other huge corporations don't have psychic arts departments where teams of practitioners use their power to gain the upper hand on their competitors. If any of that stuff worked companies would be using it.
 
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How is it that die hard evolutionists fail to appreciate the mathematics of probability?
Your genome is one in ~6 billion genomes on this planet. It consists of a unique sequence of ~3 billion base pairs.
It was produced via the union of a unique copy of half your mother's genome - who also possessed a 1 in 6 billion genome of 3 billion base pairs; and a unique copy of half your father's genome - who also possessed a 1 in 6 billion genome of 3 billion base pairs.
The ovum that was fertilized to produce you was one of ~400 that your mother produced; the sperm that fertilized it was one of billions of sperm cells that your father produced.

And so on. And so on.

And you want to pretend that you actually exist, given the tremendously unfavorable odds that your genome was produced at all??

How is it that die hard creationists fail to recognize their absurd reliance on post-hoc fallacies and nonsense to prop up their failing beliefs?
 
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If you eliminate all other possibilities, you are left with a Creator. It is conceivable that life arose spontaneously. The chances of this happening are so remote as to classify it "impossible".

Chances? Impossible?

Please provide your mathematical equation, justifying each of your variables, justifying the values you used for each variable, etc.
 
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I go there first. If I feel that definition is clear enough about my precise meaning, I'll use it. But in some cases it may be inadequate.

This one is just so elementary, the very reason I don't answer. I see it as some just wanting to waste my time with nonsense.

Maybe I should ask how some would expect me to define something so obvious?
 
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If evidence was water you'd be drowning in it. Not only is there zero evidence for evolution, it can be scientifically proven impossible.

Tell that to Christian Todd Wood, PhD creationist... So we have another uninformed zealot that does not understand the difference between evolution and abiogenesis.
 
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This one is just so elementary, the very reason I don't answer. I see it as some just wanting to waste my time with nonsense.

Maybe I should ask how some would expect me to define something so obvious?
A little thought reveals its not so obvious.

For example: do ideas "exist"?

Well, not according to the dictionary def. But its pretty hard to deny the reality of ideas.
 
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I am not saying that it is imminent. I am saying that the flaws in evolutionary theory are increasingly being exposed.
Like what?
Part of a genuine conversation with a molecular biologist, as recorded by George V. Caylor:
Who was this molecular biologist? How do we know that it is not a total scam, like some Project Veritas video?

Wow, that is so totally BELIEVABLE! Almost like it was, gosh, totally not at all made up....


This one time, while travelling, I happened to have a conversation with some random dude. Turns out that he was a... um... an... wait.. errrr.... a creationist... no - a creation scientist! Yeah that was it - his name was Jeff. Jeffrey. Yeah Jeff. We talked about the weather and and such, and then he said that he had something to confess - his creation science was a sham! He just makes stuff up for a paycheck, and his religious overlords take it all at face value.
Totally true - and never mind that I am a non-creationist pushing an anti-creationism viewpoint, nope - this totally happened!
 
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I reject evolution because it is not true, no other reason.
No reason at all, it seems.
Oh, and Professor Tour invites anyone to refute his OOL claims. No one has because no one can.
Nick Matzke offered to meet with him and explain things to him, but only if he could record the meeting (in case Tour lied about it later).
Tour declined. No propaganda value in being told what you've claimed nobody knows anything about.
 
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I can tell you that evolution is a crock.
You can say that all you want, and you will just continue to come across like a whiny child.

You don't believe it because of your indoctrination, and your creationist sources lie to you and you lack the requisite knowledge to realize they've lied.
 
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A little thought reveals its not so obvious.

For example: do ideas "exist"?

Well, not according to the dictionary def. But its pretty hard to deny the reality of ideas.

Ideas exist.

The term is defined just how we commonly use it...anything real exists, and my use of it was perfect.


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actually existing as a thing or occurring in fact; not imagined or supposed.
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because it has a few fatal flaws within it. Biggest of which is chemistry.

On the anthropic principle, we have 3-4 places in our own solar system that potentially have life, were just one solar system out of thousands to millions in our galaxy with millions of galaxies out there, low probability things happen all the time when you have large numbers.

Here is the failure of the tornado in a junk yard analogy, here is how the reality of it is.

We know that tornado's ocasionally put together some pieces of mechanical parts together.

We know that under the right conditions sheets of metal will form together into a rudimentry cylindrical shape.

We know that some times those shapes will form around mechanical parts, and when they do they have a small chance of being beneficial to the cylinder giving it the benefits of not breaking apart over time.

We know that eventually these cylinders will when complex enough, split to create new ones over time.

we know that they get more complicated over time creating new shapes and becoming more then just small parts.

And now today we see many kinds of planes flying around and replicating.

Plus in the wide universe, we know there are billions of junkyards that potentially could cause this effect, and every day the creation of the new cylinders would be happening a million times a second, potentially ending up with the 747.
 
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