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you keep saying there should be more fossils, if you expect the world to be covered in fossils why arn't they there from the flood?

And there you go again, where did I say the world (earth) should be covered with fossils?

They are there...think sea life found at high elevations. What fossils are you missing? Maybe I can help with any misunderstanding.

Why are so few dinosuars and other extant species fossils found if this flood can magickally turn bones into stone, and bury shells within and under feet of stone?

Flood turn things to stone? I don't know what any of that means, please rephrase.
 
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Again, the evidence is the fact they are not there.

A general idea how that works, "My money is not in the safe where I left it (is not there) is evidence the money was taken."

I'm thinking... are some really not understanding that or are they pretending they have no idea of what something so simple means?
 
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Don't know much about bird evolution - but I am curious if you can explain - step by step, of course - how the Hebrew deity transformed silicates into the thousands of bio-organic molecules needed to created a man from dust.

I think it's pretty common knowledge we don't know how someone as superior as God did a lot of things...what does that mean to you? Oh, and where did he get the those silicates from? The questions go on.

What bearing does that have on the subject at hand?
 
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Where are the remains of all of your ancestors from Adam to you?

Heck, that is only about 300 generations!

From dust to dust. you do realize everything doesn't fossilize? right?

So some are dust, and a few fossilized, and are still in the ground or found. And please think before you come back with your point.
 
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From dust to dust. you do realize everything doesn't fossilize? right?

So some are dust, and a few fossilized, and are still in the ground or found. And please think before you come back with your point.
Except that somehow you deny it when it comes to confirming evolution.
 
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Except that somehow you deny it when it comes to confirming evolution.

Gotta love it when creationists blatantly contradict their own arguments but don't even realize it.
 
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Details please on what exactly you are charging me with? And I hope you read the part about thinking before you reply.
So which is it?
Not every creature fossilizes; a few fossilize and some of those few are still in the ground?
Or
There should be more fossils if evolution s true?
 
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Except that somehow you deny it when it comes to confirming evolution.

I suppose drawing conclusion before giving due process could be be perceived as fair, but only by the unfair, and in some cases, those who are a bit desperate for a leg up.

Makes perfect sense to me anyway.
 
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I suppose drawing conclusion before giving due process could be be perceived as fair, but only by the unfair, and in some cases, those who are a bit desperate for a leg up.

Makes perfect sense to me anyway.
So you think something else besides evolution was going on in the fossil "gaps" why not just wait as the gaps close up through new discoveries?
 
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So which is it?
Not every creature fossilizes; a few fossilize and some of those few are still in the ground?
Or
There should be more fossils if evolution s true?

Where did I make that specific claim, I need the exact quote before I'll go on. All I can do at the moment is assume that desperation I mentioned has has caused a claim I said something that I did not say, but instead there was much more too it. But since I hate to assume, I'll await your response.
 
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ummm go read 183 where you were acting like we were ignoring the question.

wow you are dishonest, you asked how many generations from apes to humans, I answered, you havn't given the point of that question and acted like we ignored it, that is dishonest, make your point about why how many generations passed matters.
 
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THERE ARE NO SEA LIFE ON MOUNTAINS, for the last time, stop trying to be disingenuous about them.



THIS is not ON a mountain.

Nor THIS

 
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So you think something else besides evolution was going on in the fossil "gaps" why not just wait as the gaps close up through new discoveries?

That isn't an answer to my question.

This needs to be taken step by step so we can show what you are actually doing here in order to get that leg up I went on about earlier, and also so I can give you answers to truthful and not made up questions/comments. IOW, when you ask me a question based on a misquote, it's not a fair question or a question based on the truth, but only something devised to work in your favor...understand? If not, I can't be any clearer.
 
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I think it is clear to everyone here that you believe that there are too many gaps in the fossil record for you to find evolution convincing. You have said it at various times and in various ways, so it is not a question of a "misquote."
 
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THERE ARE NO SEA LIFE ON MOUNTAINS, for the last time, stop trying to be disingenuous about them.

Fossils were the subject and if you are saying there are no fossils of sea life at high elevations as it definitely appears you are, you may want to study up a bit on the basics.

ummm go read 183 where you were acting like we were ignoring the question.

I'm not acting, you are ignoring questions...end of story. And if you continue to misquote me, and insist on being clearly contrary, it will be the end of our conversation as well. A little of that is fine and doesn't necessarily equate to being contrary but your attitude is way beyond that line. Be happy to discuss this with you but We'll get nowhere without a reasonable point/counter point flow, and ours is taking up entirely too much time dealing with the misquotes and getting you to respond to questions/requests.

wow you are dishonest, you asked how many generations from apes to humans, I answered, you havn't given the point of that question and acted like we ignored it, that is dishonest, make your point about why how many generations passed matters.

Another question, how does that equate to dishonesty?

I answered that question before I even asked it. Was there some question I didn't answer or are you confusing the fact I already answered that but you didn't cath it as a problem/me being dishonest of all things?? "Wow" is right.

Remember my comment about you creating things against me that aren't there?
 
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Post 157.


You give the impression that you think if evolution is true, there should be millions+ more fossils in the world. You further give the impression that you think because there are not millions and millions of fossils found, evolution must not be true.

If you understand that fossilization rarely happens, why do you think there must be millions+ of fossils and only if evolution is true? If fossilization is rare, then you would not expect millions+ of fossils.
 
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If you understand that fossilization rarely happens, why do you think there must be millions+ of fossils and only if evolution is true? If fossilization is rare, then you would not expect millions+ of fossils.

The irony in all of this is there already are millions of fossils that have been found:
Digital museum' brings millions of fossils out of the dark

Museums including London's Natural History Museum and the Smithsonian in Washington DC are involved.

They have set out ambitious plans to digitise millions of specimens.

Digitally recording the 40 million fossils at the Smithsonian will take an estimated 50 years.

The biggest problem is that most fossils haven't been properly analyzed and appropriately catalogued because there just aren't enough people devoted to doing that work. Just per that article, it's going to take 50 years to digitize the Smithsonian collection of 40 million. And that's just a single museum.
 
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Post 157.

You need to quote it here so I don't have to try to pick it out, or to do away with any confusion...thanks.

If you understand that fossilization rarely happens, why do you think there must be millions+ of fossils and only if evolution is true? If fossilization is rare, then you would not expect millions+ of fossils.

Very good, and pertinent question.

Yes they are rare, however that doesn't mean they don't exist, and the fact takes nothing away from my claim. You all are only seeing a "gotcha" because of your need to see it. You basically refuse to understand the "odds" factor.

As I've said umpteen times, if we found fossils at each end of the spectrum there should be at least ample in between to prove the evolution point, if not many more than ample. If there are not, you have no business claiming evolution is a fact, but that it's only the theory it always was

Speedwell got close to seeing what I meant, but covered it with a "we haven't found them". I see that as a huge coincidence, when we find enough to call evolution a fact, but even with the odds in the favor of finding enough in between to actually prove it's a fact, those are nowhere to be found.... there is a reason for that.

At any rate, I little is fine, but this is the point I stop trying to deal with denial, and if you have questions fror me on it, see my prior posts on the subject in this thread..
 
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