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<blockquote data-quote="Ana the Ist" data-source="post: 72199113" data-attributes="member: 302807"><p>And? I literally didn't want you to just point to a disparity and say "white privilege" without connecting the two in any way...and that's what you did.</p><p></p><p>I'll make it simple...how do you account for poverty rates and overall average wealth of asians....if you think white privilege is this massive effect that puts whites at an advantage? Why do whites, on average, have a higher poverty rate and lower average wealth than asians in the U.S.?</p><p></p><p>I'm sure I don't need to tell you that many asians who've been in the U.S. for multiple generations also faced serious discrimination and a huge number of them didn't come here with millions in their pockets....they started at the bottom of the ladder.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem for me is that you're starting off the assumption that the kid is in the situation because "white people"...and that's it? No examination of where his family is from, his parents' choices, etc. </p><p></p><p>It's as if you believe that for 5-6 generations that kid's family did nothing but try hard and make good choices....and white people just held them down. It's amazingly simplistic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's not forget that he gets an automatic 200 points added to his SATs for being black. How many of those stats did you completely fabricate?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No...good choices are still available, they just aren't the easy choices.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wasn't thinking about gang culture so much as honor cultures in general....gang culture is really just a subset of a larger issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think money alone will fix the issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and if you're one of the tens of millions of whites that none of this applies to...it's easy to see why such simple explanations are worthless.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not at all...I simply don't deny black people their agency and pretend their all victims of circumstance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So...white privilege is "history"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ana the Ist, post: 72199113, member: 302807"] And? I literally didn't want you to just point to a disparity and say "white privilege" without connecting the two in any way...and that's what you did. I'll make it simple...how do you account for poverty rates and overall average wealth of asians....if you think white privilege is this massive effect that puts whites at an advantage? Why do whites, on average, have a higher poverty rate and lower average wealth than asians in the U.S.? I'm sure I don't need to tell you that many asians who've been in the U.S. for multiple generations also faced serious discrimination and a huge number of them didn't come here with millions in their pockets....they started at the bottom of the ladder. The problem for me is that you're starting off the assumption that the kid is in the situation because "white people"...and that's it? No examination of where his family is from, his parents' choices, etc. It's as if you believe that for 5-6 generations that kid's family did nothing but try hard and make good choices....and white people just held them down. It's amazingly simplistic. Let's not forget that he gets an automatic 200 points added to his SATs for being black. How many of those stats did you completely fabricate? No...good choices are still available, they just aren't the easy choices. I wasn't thinking about gang culture so much as honor cultures in general....gang culture is really just a subset of a larger issue. I don't think money alone will fix the issue. and if you're one of the tens of millions of whites that none of this applies to...it's easy to see why such simple explanations are worthless. Not at all...I simply don't deny black people their agency and pretend their all victims of circumstance. So...white privilege is "history"? [/QUOTE]
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