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No, it was a reference to your confident but incorrect assertion that "the Big Bang violated the laws of thermodynamics that energy cannot be created". That indicates a lack of awareness that you don't understand what you're talking about.
I have no issues with alternative cosmological and physical theories, but persistent misrepresentation of existing physics and theories needs to be corrected.
Again, a fringe view - he's not a cosmologist, he works in cryogenics. His paper references static universe proponents, which is a big red flag - the expansion of the universe is supported by multiple independent lines of evidence. It's certainly true that there are unexplained aspects of big bang theory, but the evidence for it is unequivocal.Here’s a paper from Bligh on the issue of thermodynamics and the HBB theory.
I am capable of reading and interpreting science.
https://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_5962.pdf
This is clearly a parroted response as it has no relevance in addressing my previous post.None of the predictions of the background temperature based on the Big Bang were close enough to qualify as successes, the worst being Gamow’s upward-revised estimate of 50°K made in 1961, just two years before the actual discovery. Clearly, without a realistic quantitative prediction, the Big Bang’s hypothetical “fireball” becomes indistinguishable from the natural minimum temperature of all cold matter in space. But none of the predictions, which ranged between 5°K and 50°K, matched observations. [8] And the Big Bang offers no explanation for the kind of intensity variations with wavelength seen in radio galaxies.
It is your choice. I cannot make you give your reasons.How long do we have?
Because there is no shortcuts or short version, etc...
To what both was and still is an ongoing and growing and evolving/unfolding process/history/story thus far...
Do you know how many times I have already tried to share a lot of it on here???
It doesn't matter, never matters, etc...
And it has to be taken as a whole anyway, and no one has the patience at all anymore, etc...
God Bless!
It's a copy-paste from the Tom Van Flandern article he linked.This is clearly a parroted response as it has no relevance in addressing my previous post.
That’s not just the way it goes.
Flaming and goading via a round about method of saying I am incompetent, but not capable of realization of incompetence, is nevertheless a violation of forum rules.
It is not. It has been clear from your first "physics" post on this thread that you don't have a clue what your talking about. I merely point this out to any readers so they don't take your "physics" seriously. Other posts have demonstrated this lack of understanding more clearly.
Simple advice: Don't post science you don't understand as part of an argument. It will not make your case nor make you look good. If you sincerely want to engage in discussions it might help to start by asking questions rather than making claims about a particular science you don't know well. If your first post in this series had just been in the form of "Isn't it the case that..." instead of a bold (and incorrect) claim the response would have been quite different. There are people who are willing to engage with the curious regardless of your philosophical
position on this board.
It's almost as if you're claiming evolution is not science.
No one called you stupid, and calling someone ignorant of a subject is not necessarily an insult - it may be true. We're all ignorant of something.It doesn’t matter how wrong or stupid you think a post is, you are not allowed to say they are stupid , ignorant, or any other insulting term or pejorative, whether overtly or covertly by hiding it within a scientific term.
Period.
That's not in disagreement with what I said, though. Those are miracles. I've experienced more than my share. But each miracle is unique and unpredictable--it's not something that can be repeatedly noted by observation or scientific experiment.
That’s because it’s not science
It is not observable
testable,
or repeatable
and is so plastic that it’s unfalsifiable,
One example is interpreting common structures, functions, and genes as proving common evolutionary ancestry,
instead of equally proving a common creator who doesn’t reinvent the wheel for each creature created, but uses commonality of design.
No one called you stupid, and calling someone ignorant of a subject is not necessarily an insult - it may be true. We're all ignorant of something.
But you're right, I shouldn't have used a 'scientific term', not in the science forums...
My point was that your assertive posts about science have been consistent with someone who doesn't know enough about the subject to know how wrong they are. They read like someone who has picked up most of their information about science from creationist websites. I just thought you ought to know.
And yet I've watched a panel of Nobel winners pronounce Darwin's Theory of Evolution the greatest scientific achievement of all time.
And yet it has been observed in the lab and in nature.
It is testable because it make correct predictions about what fossils will be found, and where, and how old they will be. It makes genetic predictions as well, which confirm it.
Not a valid criticism for a forensic science, which tests past events.
Find a fossil rabbit in the precambrian and you've falsified it.
There are no such examples, because no such claims are made. Theories are never proven, only disproved. So far nobody has disproved evolution.
But new species are coming into existence, which disproves the creationist claim that all species were created at once.
And yet I've watched a panel of Nobel winners pronounce Darwin's Theory of Evolution the greatest scientific achievement of all time.
And yet it has been observed in the lab and in nature.
It is testable because it make correct predictions about what fossils will be found, and where, and how old they will be. It makes genetic predictions as well, which confirm it.
Not a valid criticism for a forensic science, which tests past events.
Find a fossil rabbit in the precambrian and you've falsified it.
There are no such examples, because no such claims are made. Theories are never proven, only disproved. So far nobody has disproved evolution.
But new species are coming into existence, which disproves the creationist claim that all species were created at once.
equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been created, which would have annihilated each other leaving an empty universe - which also falsifies the theory - and there’s no viable explanation for a bias towards matter.
Real science would have abandoned the BB theory already, not perpetuated it as if it was viable.
In fact Hindu physics professor Amit Goswami says that quantum physics proves that God is the only possible first observer at the Big Bang creation event, so that matter could come into existence from the energy that was created.
Here’s a paper from Bligh on the issue of thermodynamics and the HBB theory.
I am capable of reading and interpreting science.
https://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_5962.pdf
You become upset when individuals refer to you as being ignorant yet it’s painfully obvious you are clueless by blindly quoting nonsense such as “red shift being a Doppler effect showing galaxies expanding, that was reverse extrapolated to a singularity, which is falsified by redshifts being quantized”.Except I posted secular sources and a peer reviewed article, stating that the BB violates the laws of thermodynamics - and for your information, there are those scientists who admit the creation of energy violates thermodynamics, but explain it away by stating that the laws of physics for the existing universe didn’t apply then, while the universe and space-time continuum was first forming and expanding.
And every alternative theoretical cosmological model also disagrees that the BB is viable, so you contradict yourself by claiming you have no problem with competing models, but yet become insulting when I state just one reason the BB is bogus.
That link I posted from an astronomer listed 30 reasons why the BB has been falsified, with footnotes to peer reviewed papers for each point, including the point that it violated thermodynamics - so it was not just my “unlearned, ignorant and incompetent” opinion culled from creationist websites as you asserted.
The whole theory is based around red shifting of light being a Doppler effect showing galaxies expanding, that was reverse extrapolated to a singularity, which is falsified by redshifts being quantized.
Also equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been created, which would have annihilated each other leaving an empty universe - which also falsifies the theory - and there’s no viable explanation for a bias towards matter.
That’s just two of many.
Real science would have abandoned the BB theory already, not perpetuated it as if it was viable.
To put this into scientific terminology, the equations relating to general relativity do not contain any reference to physical properties such as density.
The theoreticians then make a jump in logic and state that the early universe must have been a uniform hot plasma, and that its expansion would have brought about cooling, though this reasoning is contrary to well established experimental physical chemistry and thermodynamics.
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