In what states will recounts be requested?

Neogaia777 · Nov 6, 2020

@LostMarbels

We are discussing different ideas, opposing views, etc, but I don't think we should ever make it/that/those personal at all ever, etc, and if you will agree to not take it personally on here (when we do that, etc) then I will also 100% fully agree not to as well, OK, etc, OK...?

Anyway, might be bowing out for a little while now....

Goodnight, and,

God Bless!

LostMarbels · Nov 6, 2020

Neogaia777 said:
I do personally apologize, OK...

Please don't... Who is to keep one another in check if everyone fears each other's feelings? I said that with sincerity. If you are going to pray from me pray about what faults you view in me and intercede for guidance. I will heed the holy spirits' instruction.

LostMarbels · Nov 6, 2020

Neogaia777 said:
@LostMarbels

We are discussing different ideas, opposing views, etc, but I don't think we should ever make it/that/those personal at all ever, etc, and if you will agree to not take it personally on here (when we do that, etc) then I will also 100% fully agree not to as well, OK, etc, OK...?

Anyway, might be bowing out for a little while now....

Goodnight, and,

God Bless!

My only point was do not judge me. Bring your opinions of me before God to be judged. I am not made of my opinions on this forum. I am also not (X) because of my views. Honestly... no harm no foul.

Neogaia777 · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
Please don't... Who is to keep one another in check if everyone fears each other's feelings? I said that with sincerity. If you are going to pray from me pray about what faults you view in me and intercede for guidance. I will heed the holy spirits' instruction.

Well, I "talk" to or with God about those things a lot of the time, etc, but I also see that as a kind of complaining on my end, or venting my frustrations, etc, which I don't like to do, and try to avoid in "actual prayer", etc, cause I like to keep that kind of pure or free from all of that if I can, all the complaining and whining and fault finding and anger, etc, but I do "talk" to or with God a lot about all those other things a lot, etc, and all of the time, etc, and I think He kind of considers that a kind of "prayer" or "praying" as well, cause I do "vent" to Him, and let Him know all of my frustrations and complaints and feelings, which are like a kind of "petition" or an "asking" of Him, or to or towards Him, etc...

Anyway, so if I don't talk about what I may find fault with you with in actual prayer or praying, I will talk to or with or about them with Him at other times, or in many other ways, etc, OK...?

But just know this please, that there is no other intercessor between God man other than the man Christ Jesus, etc, OK, but I will talk with God about you or on your behalf if you want me to, OK, including any areas I might think you might need to know some more things, or could use some improvement, etc, OK, and ask Him to give you some of those things if you really truly want me to, OK...

But anyway, I think I'm going to go to bed, so, have a good night/day, OK...?

God Bless!

Neogaia777 · Nov 6, 2020

Neogaia777 said:
Well, I "talk" to or with God about those things a lot of the time, etc, but I also see that as a kind of complaining on my end, or venting my frustrations, etc, which I don't like to do, and try to avoid in "actual prayer", etc, cause I like to keep that kind of pure or free from all of that if I can, all the complaining and whining and fault finding and anger, etc, but I do "talk" to or with God a lot about all those other things a lot, etc, and all of the time, etc, and I think He kind of considers that a kind of "prayer" or "praying" as well, cause I do "vent" to Him, and let Him know all of my frustrations and complaints and feelings, which are like a kind of "petition" or an "asking" of Him, or to or towards Him, etc...

Anyway, so if I don't talk about what I may find fault with you with in actual prayer or praying, I will talk to or with or about them with Him at other times, or in many other ways, etc, OK...?

But just know this please, that there is no other intercessor between God man other than the man Christ Jesus, etc, OK, but I will talk with God about you or on your behalf if you want me to, OK, including any areas I might think you might need to know some more things, or could use some improvement, etc, OK, and ask Him to give you some of those things if you really truly want me to, OK...

But anyway, I think I'm going to go to bed, so, have a good night/day, OK...?

God Bless!

@LostMarbels

And I'd really greatly appreciate it if you might maybe kind of be able to do the same kinds of things for me as well, etc, for it is not as if I have yet fully attained, etc, not by a long shot, etc...

Anyway, Gnite, and,

God Bless!

7thKeeper · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
Wow... I never saw that coming... I mean like I didn't even know you were going to say exactly that. I am blown away that hasn't been used as sort of tactic for the last four years, it works so perfectly.

Would you be so kind as to cite when America has ever in its history voted by mail in all fifty States, in a general election, with tens of millions mail-in ballots? You show me when... ever... in the US history we had 66 million mail-in ballots before.

Moving the goal posts. My post referred to you not being able to show evidence to back up what you claimed to be factual. If you cannot do that, then don't say it. I've never disputed that you guys are doing more mail in voting, of course you are, there's a pandemic.

You merely are unable to back up what you are peddling. Which is why you are now arguing this, while avoiding talking about your own point and your lack of evidence for fraud. Claims are not evidence.

LostMarbels · Nov 6, 2020

7thKeeper said:
Moving the goal posts. My post referred to you not being able to show evidence to back up what you claimed to be factual. If you cannot do that, then don't say it. I've never disputed that you guys are doing more mail in voting, of course you are, there's a pandemic.

You merely are unable to back up what you are peddling. Which is why you are now arguing this, while avoiding talking about your own point and your lack of evidence for fraud. Claims are not evidence.

This has never happened before in our history.... how do I provide a record for something that has never happened?

Should I prove a negative?

Or should you provide information that proves me wrong since I am completely unaware it even exists?

As it stands, I am correct in stating this never happened before. You will have to show me it has.

essentialsaltes · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
Why is it so important you libel me as a conspiracy theorist that you do it over, and over, and over......

If the shoe fits.

LostMarbels said:
The thing you are not seeming to understand is none of this is contingent upon your reasoning, understanding, permission or acceptance of what has been presented. It is fully independent ...

That's right. Reality is independent of your hopes and dreams or permission. Either ballots have invisible chemtrails on them, or they don't. Sadly for you, you will probably never know the truth, because there is no chance a Trump lawyer is going to say something so cockamamie in front of a judge.

7thKeeper · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
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This has never happened before in our history.... how do I provide a record for something that has never happened?

Should I prove a negative?

Or should you provide information that proves me wrong since I am completely unaware it even exists?

As it stands, I am correct in stating this never happened before. You will have to show me it has.

But mail in voting HAS happened. There is more of it, but it has happened before. There hasn't been wide spread fraud. So there is no history to point to great increase of it. In fact, I don't remember when you guys even had the last case of intentional mail in fraud.

With that as history, even if the amount of mail in vote increased, based on the fact that intentional fraud is basically zero, it wouldnt grow exponentially, especially considering how hard it is.

So if you are going to be claiming that there is wide spread fraud because there is so much more mail in voting, yes, you better back up that claim.

LostMarbels · Nov 6, 2020

7thKeeper said:
But mail in voting HAS happened. There is more of it, but it has happened before.

But that is not what is in contention. Reread the post and your response to it.

7thKeeper · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
But that is not what is in contention. Reread the post and your response to it.

Ah, yes, there seems to be a reading mistake on my part, my mistake. No wonder we were arguing different points. My point was to argue that there was no evidence of in mail fraud being used, not that there has been or hasn't been this much on mail voting.

We are in agreement that there hasn't been this much in mail voting over there before. This isn't something anyone would disagree with.

The main crux of my arguement is that since you don't have evidence of said fraud, you should stop claiming it as fact. Currently we only have claims, some of which have already been shown false.

LostMarbels · Nov 6, 2020

7thKeeper said:
Ah, yes, there seems to be a reading mistake on my part, my mistake. No wonder we were arguing different points. My point was to argue that there was no evidence of in mail fraud being used, not that there has been or hasn't been this much on mail voting.

All good.

7thKeeper said:
The main crux of my arguement is that since you don't have evidence of said fraud, you should stop claiming it as fact.

It is a fact to me. To me, it is absolutely apparent. It is quite literally all the left has done this entire administration. Try to remove Trump from office. That's not even a stretch. I do not believe they have had a sudden change of heart. So... that being said their only goal remains... remove Trump from office. They are obsessed. No way they just out of the blue decided to give him a fair shake.

7thKeeper said:
Currently we only have claims, some of which have already been shown false.

Is there anything at all... any topic, situation, talking point... that hasn't been debunked? When has anything concerning Trump ever been right?

This is meaningless to me.

cow451 · Nov 6, 2020

disciple Clint said:
And the liberals have only spent the last 4 years resisting and doing everything in their power to conduct a bloodless coup. They did not use the courts because they did not have a case but they did try every other thing that they could think up.

Like running a candidate in 2020? How terrible!

cow451 · Nov 6, 2020

SimplyMe said:
I'm just saying, from what my research has shown me, where this idea of isotopes on ballots originated. I'm not trying to implicate you with anything -- again, merely what I've found. As to how far it has spread, I'm not sure and don't really care.

But let's try this. You claim to have this "top secret" knowledge of a sting being run by Homeland Security that no one is supposed to know about. Yet somehow, just the second day after the election and before the "trap" is sprung, you have knowledge of it. Doesn't that make you pause and make you question your sources? Is Homeland Security so badly run that they can't keep an operation like this secret before they've sprung the trap?

It's just Quazy. Really Quazy.

cow451 · Nov 6, 2020

Goonie said:
Georgia.

Georgia

SummerMadness · Nov 6, 2020

Remember back in 2004 when Republicans were the ones that dominated absentee/mail-in ballots? They were singing its praises and calling it the best form of voting. Now it's the most evil "scheme" when it comes to voting. Almost 74 million people have spoken and they want Biden. Let's just say goodbye to the worst president in modern history, a solid one-termer.

7thKeeper · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
It is a fact to me. To me, it is absolutely apparent. It is quite literally all the left has done this entire administration. Try to remove Trump from office. That's not even a stretch. I do not believe they have had a sudden change of heart. So... that being said their only goal remains... remove Trump from office. They are obsessed. No way they just out of the blue decided to give him a fair shake.

That is not how facts work. You need to show something to back it up, otherwise it's just a claim which mean nothing without evidence.

And there's nothing wrong with trying to get someone out of office. That's the whole point of elections. And I know you refer to impeachment, but Trump did that to himself with the things he pulled in Ukraine. Everyone knew he wouldn't be removed from office for the impeachment, Mitch would make sure of that.

What I think you have a hard time accepting is (even with evidence from 2016 with the general vote) is that there simply are more people who'd rather vote for Biden/against Trump. That's the dirty trick, the unfair shake here... Getting more people to vote for Biden.

7thKeeper · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
Is there anything at all... any topic, situation, talking point... that hasn't been debunked? When has anything concerning Trump ever been right?

This is meaningless to me.

Well quite a few things. Whether they are things that would have consequences for him is a different thing.

Not quite sure what this has to do with claims of voter fraud having been shown to be false. Judges have already thrown complaints out and one case in Nevada that was making its rounds around social media turned out to be a pancake as the person claiming that someone forged their mail in ballot as they weren't allowed to vote in person, was shown the mail on ballot with their signature. They confirmed that it was their signature and then didn't want to file for fraud anymore.

LostMarbels · Nov 6, 2020

7thKeeper said:
That is not how facts work. You need to show something to back it up, otherwise it's just a claim which mean nothing without evidence.

How do you propose one proves something has never happened? It is inane.

7thKeeper said:
And there's nothing wrong with trying to get someone out of office. That's the whole point of elections. And I know you refer to impeachment, but Trump did that to himself with the things he pulled in Ukraine. Everyone knew he wouldn't be removed from office for the impeachment, Mitch would make sure of that.

He is not getting removed. You guys are all worked up about this for months now... it's not happening. You'll see. We're going to have all of our fun and games and Teflon Trump will remain.

7thKeeper · Nov 6, 2020

LostMarbels said:
How do you propose one proves something has never happened? It is inane.

I'm not quite sure if we are missing the point again. I'm saying if that you do not have evidence that voter fraud has happened, do not claim that it has as if it was fact. There's no proving a negative there.

In what states will recounts be requested?

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