In vitro fertilization

[ChristopherinLA]

Is there such thing as a theology that justifies the willful destruction of fertilized eggs during in-vitro fertilization? I’m just wondering because all I know is that it is wrong to do, but I know that most Christian’s either don’t have an opinion, are against it, or for it. So I was just trying to understand why people may be for it theologically. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

 

[LeGato]

Is there such thing as a theology that justifies the willful destruction of fertilized eggs during in-vitro fertilization? I’m just wondering because all I know is that it is wrong to do, but I know that most Christian’s either don’t have an opinion, are against it, or for it. So I was just trying to understand why people may be for it theologically. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

All the advanced tech regarding reproduction always reminds me of Genesis and the Book of Enoch.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Is there such thing as a theology that justifies the willful destruction of fertilized eggs during in-vitro fertilization?

You mean like seeing a 666 shaped pigmentation mark on the Blastula?

 

[LeGato]

You mean like seeing a 666 shaped pigmentation mark on the Blastula?

Please red pill me on this.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Please red pill me on this.

lol it was a joke, I almost put a smiley face at the end but thought people would find it extremely crass to be joking about abortion, but the wise crack itself is an homage to the old Omen trilogy of movies.

Wow I forgot they remade at least the first movie in 2006...

 

[LeGato]

lol it was a joke, I almost put a smiley face at the end but thought people would find it extremely crass to be joking about abortion, but the wise crack itself is an homage to the old Omen trilogy of movies.

Wow I forgot or never realized they remade at least the first movie in 2006

Ah yes. Being stupid right now.

 

[bekkilyn]

Normally I don't "get" a lot of jokes, but I laughed the moment I saw that one, but then when I read LeGato's following post, I thought, "Oh no, it wasn't supposed to be a joke, was it?" There I go again! But then it WAS a joke and I GOT it!! *dances*

I have to celebrate these small moments.

 

[All4Christ]

Is there such thing as a theology that justifies the willful destruction of fertilized eggs during in-vitro fertilization? I’m just wondering because all I know is that it is wrong to do, but I know that most Christian’s either don’t have an opinion, are against it, or for it. So I was just trying to understand why people may be for it theologically. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

I am against it. My Church (Orthodox) and Catholic also both firmly disagree with it, so I can’t help with reasons why people would be for it. I could provide reasons why we are against it though.

 

[Tolworth John]

Is there such thing as a theology that justifies the willful destruction of fertilized eggs during in-vitro fertilization? I’m just wondering because all I know is that it is wrong to do, but I know that most Christian’s either don’t have an opinion, are against it, or for it. So I was just trying to understand why people may be for it theologically. Any insight is appreciated. Thanks!

Life begins at conception so the morning after pill is as wrong for Christians as abortion.
If abortion is wrong then the destruction or use in experimentation and then destruction is wrong for excessive in vitro fertilzation..

 

[All4Christ]

Life begins at conception so the morning after pill is as wrong for Christians as abortion.
If abortion is wrong then the destruction or use in experimentation and then destruction is wrong for excessive in vitro fertilzation..

Standard in vitro fertilization includes many embryos being created, testing of said embryos for genetic abnormalities and quality, disposal of low quality embryos, storage of many extras for potential later use and destruction of many embryos either through losing viability or intentionally destroying them.

As someone who struggles with infertility, it seems like it could be a saving medical treatment, but I cannot in good conscious do that, even if it is the best chance for having a child of our own.

I know some people believe life starts upon implantation rather than fertilization, so perhaps that is the reasoning?

 

[The Liturgist]

Standard in vitro fertilization includes many embryos being created, testing of said embryos for genetic abnormalities and quality, disposal of low quality embryos, storage of many extras for potential later use and destruction of many embryos either through losing viability or intentionally destroying them.

As someone who struggles with infertility, it seems like it could be a saving medical treatment, but I cannot in good conscious do that, even if it is the best chance for having a child of our own.

I know some people believe life starts upon implantation rather than fertilization, so perhaps that is the reasoning?

People are amoral. One cannot always presuppose the existence of Reason, which implies the activity of the divine Logos, in the activities of fallen man.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Standard in vitro fertilization includes many embryos being created, testing of said embryos for genetic abnormalities and quality, disposal of low quality embryos, storage of many extras for potential later use and destruction of many embryos either through losing viability or intentionally destroying them.

As someone who struggles with infertility, it seems like it could be a saving medical treatment, but I cannot in good conscious do that, even if it is the best chance for having a child of our own.

Check out the Paul VI Institute in Omaha, as part of Creighton University. They developed NaProTechnology which avoids all that in vitro stuff and manages to have some success by actually understanding the biology rather than jumping into crazy manipulations of it. There are people all over the country who practice this kind of medicine.

I know some people believe life starts upon implantation rather than fertilization, so perhaps that is the reasoning?

a semantic shift precisely to allow for in vitro fertilization by doing away with fertilization and conception as the logical beginning of life.

 

[mama2one]

As someone who struggles with infertility, it seems like it could be a saving medical treatment, but I cannot in good conscious do that, even if it is the best chance for having a child of our own.

we never considered in vitro
I don't believe in medical treatments to become pregnant
there are SO many children who need homes

God led us to adopt
1 Samuel 1:27

 

[All4Christ]

Check out the Paul VI Institute in Omaha, as part of Creighton University. They developed NaProTechnology which avoids all that in vitro stuff and manages to have some success by actually understanding the biology rather than jumping into crazy manipulations of it. There are people all over the country who practice this kind of medicine.

a semantic shift precisely to allow for in vitro fertilization by doing away with fertilization and conception as the logical beginning of life.

Thank you! We actually are planning to start NaPro beginning of the year in January.

 

[All4Christ]

we never considered in vitro
I don't believe in medical treatments to become pregnant
there are SO many children who need homes

God led us to adopt
1 Samuel 1:27

Blessings to you and your family with doing that. You are right that there are many many who need homes.

We are praying about adoption (and fostering) as well for guidance.

 

[All4Christ]

Check out the Paul VI Institute in Omaha, as part of Creighton University. They developed NaProTechnology which avoids all that in vitro stuff and manages to have some success by actually understanding the biology rather than jumping into crazy manipulations of it. There are people all over the country who practice this kind of medicine.

a semantic shift precisely to allow for in vitro fertilization by doing away with fertilization and conception as the logical beginning of life.

Honestly, I wish we had known about NaPro earlier. We had years of medical diagnostics, all treatments that we could have within what is acceptable, stress from hearing doctors say the only next step is IVF…I feel like we wasted so much time.

God works miracles though and I am praying for peace and acceptance as well, both for the journey and for the possibility of it not being His Will for us.

 

[chevyontheriver]

Honestly, I wish we had known about NaPro earlier. We had years of medical diagnostics, all treatments that we could have within what is acceptable, stress from hearing doctors say the only next step is IVF…I feel like we wasted so much time.

God works miracles though and I am praying for peace and acceptance as well, both for the journey and for the possibility of it not being His Will for us.

Sorry. I didn't know or I would have mentioned it years ago. It's too well kept a secret I guess.

 

[All4Christ]

Sorry. I didn't know or I would have mentioned it years ago. It's too well kept a secret I guess.

I appreciate you mentioning it now, and I don’t frequently bring this up. I probably should have looked for alternatives but my first thought was to go through standard medical procedures, and outside the Catholic Church, I don’t think it is frequently known or mentioned. I heard more about it when I joined a Catholic Infertility support group.