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Improving (by replacing) the Internal Combustion Engine
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<blockquote data-quote="Sophrosyne" data-source="post: 62551673" data-attributes="member: 193127"><p>There is nothing that is really free, that is the problem of it all as people "think" solar and wind power and tidal generation is free but there is cost in researching and implementing these power types and the return on them is sometimes not as high as people think, the upkeep can be prohibitive and the initial investment can be sometimes insurmountable. </p><p>The advantage of internal combustion is cheap fuel, ease of storage and transport of fuel, and power generation that is available 2/47 with no restrictions. </p><p>The alternative power sources rely on the sun being available or upon weather in such as solar, wind, and tidal generators, even a hydroelectric damn needs a continuing source of water upstream to feed it so in a drought situation power generation has to be reduced. </p><p>Solar power isn't enough daily to do a huge amount when it comes to a vehicle, that is if you had a standard size SAFE vehicle that is comparable in use to combustion engine versions you could cover it with solar panels and probably not generate 1/10 the power you could use a day IF you had sun out more than average hours without interruption. As far as getting power from the vehicle in motion, you need to study basic physics in that energy is conserved it either exists or doesn't and you don't get it from nowhere so if you are taking energy from an axle moving it will slow the vehicle down that is moving till it stops it which if the vehicle is being powered by a source of energy it will require more energy to keep it going from the energy drag upon it. For the most part mechanical based energy transmitting systems (that use energy to make work and work to make energy) lose power converting (typically into heat given off) such that each time you convert from mechanical to electrical you end up with less power than you started with. To store and release energy from batteries also has a loss associated with it. It takes perhaps 20% or more energy to store it in a battery than it ends up with in some cases the loss can be 50% or higher and batteries can self discharge over time also (but better ones typically slow enough that daily use losses are negligible). </p><p></p><p>The one major issue is COST... manufacturing cost to the consumer, replacement costs of battery systems, and the cost of trying to generate the extra electricity from somewhere that electrical vehicles will pull of the power grid. People think they are helping the environment 100% by getting an electric vehicle but if the power plant burns fossil fuels to make the power to charge it then it isn't that cut and dried. </p><p>You could even say if the vehicles and parts end up not being made in the US then they will be made in China and will have to use more fossil fuels to transport them overseas using combustion engines on freighters to get here. </p><p>The major drawbacks on electrical vehicles are the initial high cost of them, the high cost of replacing the batteries, and the limited driving range of a 100% electric vehicle (no hybrid). Other drawbacks are smaller size, danger of battery damage in collisions and downtime needed to recharge batteries plus paying for a hookup at home to charge one quickly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sophrosyne, post: 62551673, member: 193127"] There is nothing that is really free, that is the problem of it all as people "think" solar and wind power and tidal generation is free but there is cost in researching and implementing these power types and the return on them is sometimes not as high as people think, the upkeep can be prohibitive and the initial investment can be sometimes insurmountable. The advantage of internal combustion is cheap fuel, ease of storage and transport of fuel, and power generation that is available 2/47 with no restrictions. The alternative power sources rely on the sun being available or upon weather in such as solar, wind, and tidal generators, even a hydroelectric damn needs a continuing source of water upstream to feed it so in a drought situation power generation has to be reduced. Solar power isn't enough daily to do a huge amount when it comes to a vehicle, that is if you had a standard size SAFE vehicle that is comparable in use to combustion engine versions you could cover it with solar panels and probably not generate 1/10 the power you could use a day IF you had sun out more than average hours without interruption. As far as getting power from the vehicle in motion, you need to study basic physics in that energy is conserved it either exists or doesn't and you don't get it from nowhere so if you are taking energy from an axle moving it will slow the vehicle down that is moving till it stops it which if the vehicle is being powered by a source of energy it will require more energy to keep it going from the energy drag upon it. For the most part mechanical based energy transmitting systems (that use energy to make work and work to make energy) lose power converting (typically into heat given off) such that each time you convert from mechanical to electrical you end up with less power than you started with. To store and release energy from batteries also has a loss associated with it. It takes perhaps 20% or more energy to store it in a battery than it ends up with in some cases the loss can be 50% or higher and batteries can self discharge over time also (but better ones typically slow enough that daily use losses are negligible). The one major issue is COST... manufacturing cost to the consumer, replacement costs of battery systems, and the cost of trying to generate the extra electricity from somewhere that electrical vehicles will pull of the power grid. People think they are helping the environment 100% by getting an electric vehicle but if the power plant burns fossil fuels to make the power to charge it then it isn't that cut and dried. You could even say if the vehicles and parts end up not being made in the US then they will be made in China and will have to use more fossil fuels to transport them overseas using combustion engines on freighters to get here. The major drawbacks on electrical vehicles are the initial high cost of them, the high cost of replacing the batteries, and the limited driving range of a 100% electric vehicle (no hybrid). Other drawbacks are smaller size, danger of battery damage in collisions and downtime needed to recharge batteries plus paying for a hookup at home to charge one quickly. [/QUOTE]
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