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You are describing evolution as if it is a choice made by an individual and it isn't.
I thought I made it clear in the first response: It is almost impossible to backtrack an evolutionary path.
With the example of monkeys and humans, a human has a different structure and history to a monkey so if it were adapt to a monkey niche it would necessarily do it differently.
Yes but you are saying the history of the human was partly "as" monkey?
Was the transitioning to human still to do with trees or wasn't it?
You might get away with saying trees were less important, but you would still have to explain why?
All that makes believing the bible super easy in comparison.There is no choices involved evolution. It's a process that occurs at the species level on a near geological time scale.
Modern monkeys do not live in the same environment as the ancestral population that became apes, so even with similar variations appearing they would not have the same pressures.
Also human development is unprecedentedly strange. There is no evidence of any species being as intelligent or technological as the human lineage.
1000 years is not in the slightest a long time.
Chimps are comparatively similar to humans than monkeys and that split occurred 4 to 6 million years ago.
There's also no reason to assume slightly greater intelligence, the loss of a tail, greater size and moving to a ground based lifestyle would be beneficial to any particular monkey species.
Bible is actually quite hard to understand and no two people agree on a longer text in it.All that makes believing the bible super easy in comparison.
Yes our history as tree living was very important to us.
It's why we have nimble fingers, stereo vision and the ability to see colour.
But it was leaving the trees as our primary living space that let us become human.
The distant ancestors of humans would be described as monkeys, but a lot has happened to us since then so it isn't particularly useful to focus on our historical environment rather then our current one.
The important difference is evidence rather than your personal preference and religious conviction.All that makes believing the bible super easy in comparison.
Ok. Right. This is the thing, what if humans approach "coding computers" the same way they did "climbing trees"? Would having been a monkey climbing trees, make the computer code more organised? Or is the time as a monkey lost, forever?
You can see what I am asking, right?
Just curious what are you thinking that confirms your preference for currency? Darwin?
The important difference is evidence rather than your personal preference and religious conviction.
We are descended from monkeys, we weren't personally monkeys.
Our ancient ancestry has had a definite effect on our development, but I can't see a justification for focusing on any particular skill or trait that our ancestors had and we don't.
I didn't mention "currency". When I said current I meant the modern time when humans live.
The important difference is evidence rather than your personal preference and religious conviction.
We are descended from monkeys, we weren't personally monkeys.
Our ancient ancestry has had a definite effect on our development, but I can't see a justification for focusing on any particular skill or trait that our ancestors had and we don't.
I didn't mention "currency". When I said current I meant the modern time when humans live.
Such as?The important difference is evidence
No I'm not! Does God talk nonsense?
A selection pressure of valid concern, is one that tests how much it can build on the past.
I have told you before that claiming you are "evolved" does not help you escape the problem of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil - this test springs directly out of an interest, in what Evolution can do for a thirst for change.
My thought is that you don't know or don't intend to know, what difference Evolution makes to real outcomes like work and helping people and leading and so you are tempted to write off inquiry into how Evolution can help these things to be. Don't be tempted!
Let me help you: it depends on how similar mutations are to one another? The more similar the mutations, the more likely that similar selection pressures will build on each other?
What do you think? Make sense?
The fossil evidence of transitional forms linking humans to the other primates.Such as?
That's a belief based on tradition and the Bible, not a memory.The evidence is, people are starting to trust the memory of Jesus on the cross.
Ok. So to be clear, you think we descended from monkeys without their instinct, and that if we had "personally" been monkeys then a little of their instinct would be passed on, or a lot?
Like I said, the metaphor of trees for structures of code, would be quite helpful.
The same might be said of reading maps, or building buildings or constructing cities, I could go on.
I didn't mean "money" but 'currency, with the times'.
That's a belief based on tradition and the Bible, not a memory.
Us personally being monkeys is impossible.
Metaphors and mental short hands can be very useful for many things, but it has nothing to do with imitating an ancient ancestor.
Okay then, Darwin has absolutely nothing to do with being alive now and even the concept of preference for that doesn't make sense.
OK show one example anywhere in say the last 1000 years. 1000 years is a long time
now if a monkey can become human certainly one would have done so in the last 1000 years.
No, no, we had the original faith and we still wanted to remember it.
So you lose what you learned as a monkey, for some reason?
It's to do with survival? The human that remembers what he was as a monkey, is more adapted than the human who risks becoming a monkey again.
But you are alive now? What a strange way for you to live (believing that the truth is not "now")?
You could ask the opposite question: does being in pain, stop future Evolutions or focus them?
If you are in pain, you don't mate, so your genes aren't passed on.
On the other hand, if you have been in a lot of pain and recover, you pass on pain tolerant genes, right?
What if any evidence is there for macro evolution?The fossil evidence of transitional forms linking humans to the other primates.
The pattern of genetic similarities between humans an other living primate species. (Note, I say the pattern of similarity not just the degree of similarity).
The common patterns of evidence demonstrating an evolutionary relationship across all other life studied.
OK my why question is WHY would it have stopped, if it ever happened in the past it should still be happening today. Do we see any monkeys turning into humans today?Not from an evolutionary standpoint. From there, 1000 years is the blink of an eye.
Why? It took humans and chimps 4 million years to get to where they are now.
...I just listed the fossils and genetic patterns of relatedness?What if any evidence is there for macro evolution?
I'm said multiple times already, there's no reason to assume pressures on other primates would lead to the same results.OK my why question is WHY would it have stopped, if it ever happened in the past it should still be happening today. Do we see any monkeys turning into humans today?
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