I'm a Wesleyan and didn't know it. (???)

Jsut for the record (I haven't read the ntire thread) Dedication by the parents is jsut the parents saying they will raise their child in the church and tell them about God and try to guide them to a personal realatioship with God.

I jsut took the quiz and I am 96% Weslyean. Guess I found the right church!

Kristy

I just did the quizz, and guess what?

Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan 100%
Fundamentalist 96%
Emergent/Postmodern 89%
Reformed Evangelical 82%
Neo orthodox 68%
Classical Liberal 64%
Charismatic/Pentecostal 54%
Modern Liberal 36%
Roman Catholic 32%

So I have found my place, it seems.

Hey, thanx for the tip. I've been feeling a growing discomfort in my church, like my beliefs and values don't fit, and while I consider myself scripturally Christian (that is not protestant, not non-denominational but rather one who follows and bears the name Christ alone) it has been suggested that my take is wesleyan and evangelical as opposed to Calvan or pentacostal.

Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan-100%
Fundamentalist-61%
Reformed Evangelical-57%
Charismatic/Pentecostal-54%
Emergent/Postmodern-54%
Roman Catholic-50%
Classical Liberal-43%
Modern Liberal-39%
And this is very introspective isn't it.

Hi, im new to all this so this may not come out as i mean it to, but here goes .
I noticed in an older post that alonesoldier said that he did not know of any verse that supported his view that children if they die young go to be with Christ, (sorry if i am misinterpreting your words). I believe this view is scriptural, and this is why;
If we take John Wesleys definition of what it is to commit a sin (i will work on the assumption that you agree with it), "a voluntary transgretion of a known law of God," that is to say that God holds only those sins against you that you commit voluntarily and are aware of. The question then becomes, can a child know that what he does is wrong? Scripture seems to say that he doesn`t up untill a certain age;
Isaiah 7 vs 16
"But before the child knows to reject the wrong and choose the right."

or

Romans 7 vs 9
"Once i was alive apart from the law, but when the commandment came sin sprang to life and i died."

Obviously you must look at these in there context, but i believe they support the view that a child is covered by Gods grace till "the child knows to reject the wrong and chose the right"
I think that is consistant with a God of Love, Mercy but also Justice and Holiness, as we know "God wills that all be saved."
Anyway i hope that that helps, and it wasn`t so bad typing all that, still it may come out all over the place, but i hope not.
The other thing i wanted to say is that (im sure its the same for the rest of you), when reading Wesley so many scriptures begin to make sense , he really was a man who "lost his life" for the Lord (in the spiritual sense) and therefore was greatly used by God.

Here are my test results... although I don't fully understand what it all means....

You scored as a Evangelical Holiness/WesleyanYou are an evangelical in the Wesleyan tradition. You believe that God's grace enables you to choose to believe in him, even though you yourself are totally depraved. The gift of the Holy Spirit gives you assurance of your salvation, and he also enables you to live the life of obedience to which God has called us. You are influenced heavly by John Wesley and the Methodists.

Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan 82% Emergent/Postmodern 75%
Classical Liberal 64%
Roman Catholic 57%
Neo orthodox 54%
Modern Liberal 50%
Charismatic/Pentecostal 46%
Reformed Evangelical 43%
Fundamentalist 29%

What a great thread!

Here are my results:
You scored as a Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan
You are an evangelical in the Wesleyan tradition. You believe that God's grace enables you to choose to believe in him, even though you yourself are totally depraved. The gift of the Holy Spirit gives you assurance of your salvation, and he also enables you to live the life of obedience to which God has called us. You are influenced heavly by John Wesley and the Methodists.
Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan
93%
Neo orthodox
79%
Fundamentalist
79%
Charismatic/Pentecostal
75%
Emergent/Postmodern
75%
Reformed Evangelical
64%
Classical Liberal
54%
Modern Liberal
50%
Roman Catholic
46%

Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan 86%
Emergent/Postmodern 82%
Neo orthodox 71%
Roman Catholic 64%
Reformed Evangelical 57%
Classical Liberal 50%
Charismatic/Pentecostal 36%
Modern Liberal 32%
Fundamentalist 21%



One of the reasons that some might be surprised with their results is the wide range of denominations that are at least tangentially related to Wesley or Methodism. Several existing denominations beyond the 5 major "Methodist" denominations, the Nazarenes or the Wesley Church are direct descendents of John Wesley's teachings. Most pentecostal churches have a connection to the charismatic revivals going through the Methodist Episcopal Church at the close of the 19th century. Both Baptists and Methodists got their roots as frontier churches and a lot of practical theology came out of that. And Wesley's roots are Anglican which at his time was not as far removed from Roman Catholicism as mean-spirited language of that time regarding all things Catholic would lead one to believe. And of course Wesley was himself an avid reader of both Luther and Calvin in addition to Arminius, so that this whole mix was part of his own theological thinking.

Depending on your own internal sense of what things should be emphasized vs. something else, one could be a life-long member of any of these other groups and find out that you're really a closet Wesleyan all along.

I took this test once before...my results are somewhere on the spirit filled/charismatic forum.
I scored Weslyan as well, with neo-orthodox and charismatic not far behind. Now if I only knew what neo-orthodox was...

Redheadedstepchild said:

I took this test once before...my results are somewhere on the spirit filled/charismatic forum.
I scored Weslyan as well, with neo-orthodox and charismatic not far behind. Now if I only knew what neo-orthodox was...

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I'm wondering the same thing.

neo-orthodox

Main Entry: neo·or·tho·dox
Function: adjective
-- of or relating to a 20th century movement in Protestant theology characterized by a reaction against liberalism and emphasis on various scripturally based Reformation doctrines

"Neo" means "new", so it is referring to a new form of orthodoxy. Whether it is truly orthodox in keeping with the historic and fundamental expressions of the Christian faith or is just a "new thing" is open to debate and you'll get different answers depending on who you ask. As with the term "emergent Church", neo-orthodoxy is nearly impossible to pin down meaning different things to different folks.

It began with a rejection of Protestant scholasticism and a denial of the liberal movements within early 20th century Protestantism which had stressed accommodation of Christianity to Western science and culture, and the progressive improvement of mankind. Neo-orthodoxy is known for its existential element which stresses the subjective experience of the individual and regards propositional "truth" as either irrelevant or indeterminate. According to Neo-Orthodoxy, existential truth is a the only true truth that transforms the individual in his concrete here and now. While propositional truth may increase one's level information knowledge, such "truth" nevertheless leaves one essentially unchanged and thus has relatively little actual value.

This latter point puts neo-orthodoxy at odds with traditional understandings of what it meant to be orthodox -- i.e. right thinking. Yet neo-orthodoxy uses many of the terms of orthodox theology, even going so far as to agree with the essence of the doctrinal positions taught, but not reflecting on them in the same way.

Take the concept of the Bible as the Word of God for example. Orthodox, neo-orthodox, and fundamentalists might all refer to the Bible by the same term, calling it the Word of God. The Orthodox merely means that is is God word given to us through holy inspiration. The Fundamentalists wants to drive home the point that it is actually God speaking, and that Jesus is the incarnation of the living word. But neither of these reflects where the neo-orthodox is coming from. For the neo-orthodox scripture is no longer a reliable guide unless God chooses to use it in a persons life.

Hence, it is difficult to find any doctrinal consistency among Neo-Orthodox theologians, even with regard to critical things such as the nature of the atonement. When some of the major thinkers that shaped the neo-orthodox movement passed away in the 1950s and 60s, the movement basically imploded. But with the advent of what is called postmodernism, there is a revival of sorts going on as a new generation of theologically conservative clergy and theologians works to find ways to affirm the authority and truth of scripture without viewing it as historically accurate or literally true in all cases.



If you're still interested, here are a few articles that tackle the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-orthodoxy

http://http://www.godspointofview.com/public/articles/neo-orthodoxy.html

http://http://www.apprising.org/archives/2006/10/neoorthodoxy_an.html

Well i must say my results are interesting to me!
I grew up Catholic. As an adult i spent 12 yrs in various Protestant/Pentecostal churches. The bulk of it i spent in the AOG church as well as a couple years as a Baptist. Recently i was back at the Catholic church for 5 yrs before coming to the Nazarene church i currently attend for almost 11 mos now. I find it interesting my beliefs are now more Wesleyan than Catholic even though i spent many many years as a Catholic and only 11 mos as a Nazarene! I apparently am in the right place.
i scored highest in Emergent/Postmodern and am not even sure what that is..lol..but i guess the paragraph is what describes it and if so, then YES..thats pretty much ME!

here is what it says and my scores:

You scored as a Emergent/PostmodernYou are Emergent/Postmodern in your theology. You feel alienated from older forms of church, you don't think they connect to modern culture very well. No one knows the whole truth about God, and we have much to learn from each other, and so learning takes place in dialogue. Evangelism should take place in relationships rather than through crusades and altar-calls. People are interested in spirituality and want to ask questions, so the church should help them to do this.

Emergent/Postmodern 79%
Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan 75%
Roman Catholic 68%
Neo orthodox 61%
Classical Liberal 50%
Modern Liberal 39%
Reformed Evangelical 36%
Charismatic/Pentecostal 36%
Fundamentalist 25%