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Neither does evolution. Faith fills in the gaps where evidence or proof are missing, and allows me to trust God when I should. I probably shouldn't be discussing this with people who are so closed-minded about it, and who simply want to tear it up instead of read about it honestly.armed2010 said:Faith- Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence
The gaps are ignorance. When we learn we narrow or close a gap. So when we learn, we diminish God?aeroz19 said:Neither does evolution. Faith fills in the gaps where evidence or proof are missing, and allows me to trust God when I should. I probably shouldn't be discussing this with people who are so closed-minded about it, and who simply want to tear it up instead of read about it honestly.
If you want to believe that people of faith are ignorant fools, you just go right ahead. Whatever you say.
Man, I wish I could learn to do that.....aeroz19 said:If you want to believe that people of faith are ignorant fools, you just go right ahead. Whatever you say.
Then Pilate said to Him, "Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?" And He answered him not one word, so that the governor was greatly amazed.
(Mat 27:13-14)
aeroz19 said:Faith- Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence
Neither does evolution.
and YOUR interpretation thereof.......caravelair said:wrong. evolution IS based on material evidence.......:
Follower of Christ said:and YOUR interpretation thereof.......
Evolution as it is used here, is based on a opinion of a observation of material evidence. Your evidence simply does not support the theory of evolution.caravelair said:wrong. evolution IS based on material evidence. here it is:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
JohnR7 said:Evolution as it is used here, is based on a opinion of a observation of material evidence. Your evidence simply does not support the theory of evolution.
Ok......so you found some pattern and can make predictions.... STILL doesnt prove common decent now does it??caravelair said:it has been explained to you that evidence for theories is not a matter of interpretation. if a theory specifically predicts something, and we find that thing to be true, then it is evidence for that theory. for example, evolution predicts the pattern of biogeography that we see. now you can't deny that we see the pattern of biogeography we see. it's there. it's fact. that is the evidence. there is no interpretation involved in determining the pattern of biogeography. we just look at it, that's all. neither is it a matter of interpretation that evolution predicts this pattern of biology. so really you've got no leg to stand on.
Follower of Christ said:Ok......so you found some pattern and can make predictions.... STILL doesnt prove common decent now does it??
and it is ALL a matter of interpretation..... Ill admit it, why cant you be honest enought to ???
Its also evidence for a common designer......the point is not that it proves common descent. the point is that it is evidence for common descent.
you disagreed. you are wrong, since there clearly is evidence, regardless of whether you personally find it convincing or not.
Follower of Christ said:Its also evidence for a common designer......
"lets see......this car works guys.....mebe we should use some of these ideas in the REST of them"
Yeah, but it's more like "hey - these bits work - lets use them, as well as these spare screws that don't do anything, and that hose that doesn't go anywhere, and that line of red paint from when that motorbike crashed into it, in the REST of them"Follower of Christ said:Its also evidence for a common designer......
"lets see......this car works guys.....mebe we should use some of these ideas in the REST of them"
No one can deny evolution. It is man's theory of evoluion, what they call evolutionism, that is a pack of lies. Darwinism has been falsified, and the neo darwinism that replaced it will be falsified right along with Darwinism.caravelair said:the evidence DOES support evolution, and this is objectively true, not a matter of interpretation or opinion.
No one can deny evolution. It is man's theory of evoluion, that is a pack of lies. Darwinism has been falsified, and the neo darwinism that replaced it will be falsified right along with Darwinism.caravelair said:the evidence DOES support evolution, and this is objectively true, not a matter of interpretation or opinion.
JohnR7 said:No one can deny evolution. It is man's theory of evoluion, that is a pack of lies. Darwinism has been falsified, and the neo darwinism that replaced it will be falsified right along with Darwinism.
As I just pointed out from a link to a evolutionist site. The evolutionary theory regarding horses after a long time standing has recently fallen and been falsifed. Of course they are quick to rush in with another theory that in time will again be falsified and replaced with another theory. This is the modern scientific method.
The first theory was like a tree, the new theory is like a bush. So, if you do not mind changing theorys more often then some people change their underware, then by all means, go with man made theorys.
He just creative like thatcaravelair said:and as for your common design = common designer argument, you still haven't explained why god would use a different design for a bat's wing,
I dont see the dolphins complaining about ita design homologous to structures in other mammals, or why he would put a homologous structure in the fin of a dolphin, instead of saying "let's see......this fin works.....maybe i should use this idea in the REST of them". hmmm.
So you see something that GOD created.......you figured out how to predict with it.....and THEN youre going to give your theory the credit for it ?!?if no, you must show that either the pattern of biogeography we see does not exist, or that evolution does not predict such a pattern.
Follower of Christ said:He just creative like that
Follower of Christ said:So you see something that GOD created.......you figured out how to predict with it.....and THEN youre going to give your theory the credit for it ?!?
hey, i figured the pattern of the seasons here in ohio......does that mean I get to take credit for them too?
They don't call it evolutionism, you do.JohnR7 said:No one can deny evolution. It is man's theory of evoluion, what they call evolutionism, that is a pack of lies.
Darwinism hasn't been falsified; it has been added to, corrected, and modified. Call the result neo-Darwinism if it makes you feel better...Darwinism has been falsified, and the neo darwinism that replaced it will be falsified right along with Darwinism.
Nope, you just misunderstood it.As I just pointed out from a link to a evolutionist site. The evolutionary theory regarding horses after a long time standing has recently fallen and been falsifed.
This is the first correct thing you've said in a while.Of course they are quick to rush in with another theory that in time will again be falsified and replaced with another theory. This is the modern scientific method.
And what do you offer instead, man?The first theory was like a tree, the new theory is like a bush. So, if you do not mind changing theorys more often then some people change their underware, then by all means, go with man made theorys.
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