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<blockquote data-quote="tall73" data-source="post: 74668756" data-attributes="member: 125574"><p>The president does have the ability to hold up aid if worried about corruption. And while I think most would agree that the theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election is certainly not supported, that was the first thing he directly asked about. </p><p></p><p>The violation that did occur was that he did not send the notice to congress as should have happened. But the law provides for remedy there as well. The Comptroller general was supposed to send notice, and failing that, to bring civil suit. </p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">If the Comptroller General finds that the President, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, the head of any department or agency of the United States, or any other officer or employee of the United States—</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">(1) is to establish a reserve or proposes to defer budget authority with respect to which the President is required to transmit a special message under section 683 or 684 of this title; or</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">(2) has ordered, permitted, or approved the establishment of such a reserve or a deferral of budget authority;</span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"><strong>and that the President has failed to transmit a special message with respect to such reserve or deferral, the Comptroller General shall make a report on such reserve or deferral and any available information concerning it to both Houses of Congress. </strong>The provisions of sections 682 to 688 of this title shall apply with respect to such reserve or deferral in the same manner and with the same effect as if such report of the Comptroller General were a special message transmitted by the President under section 683 or 684 of this title, and, for purposes of sections 682 to 688 of this title, such report shall be considered a special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title.</span></p><p></p><p>And</p><p><span style="color: #006600"></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600"><strong>§687. Suits by Comptroller General</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #006600">If, under this chapter, budget authority is required to be made available for obligation and such budget authority is not made available for obligation, the Comptroller General is hereby expressly empowered, through attorneys of his own selection, to bring a civil action in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to require such budget authority to be made available for obligation, and such court is hereby expressly empowered to enter in such civil action, against any department, agency, officer, or employee of the United States, any decree, judgment, or order which may be necessary or appropriate to make such budget authority available for obligation.</span></p><p></p><p>The law provides its own remedies, but they do not include impeachment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tall73, post: 74668756, member: 125574"] The president does have the ability to hold up aid if worried about corruption. And while I think most would agree that the theory that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election is certainly not supported, that was the first thing he directly asked about. The violation that did occur was that he did not send the notice to congress as should have happened. But the law provides for remedy there as well. The Comptroller general was supposed to send notice, and failing that, to bring civil suit. [COLOR=#006600] If the Comptroller General finds that the President, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, the head of any department or agency of the United States, or any other officer or employee of the United States— (1) is to establish a reserve or proposes to defer budget authority with respect to which the President is required to transmit a special message under section 683 or 684 of this title; or (2) has ordered, permitted, or approved the establishment of such a reserve or a deferral of budget authority; [B]and that the President has failed to transmit a special message with respect to such reserve or deferral, the Comptroller General shall make a report on such reserve or deferral and any available information concerning it to both Houses of Congress. [/B]The provisions of sections 682 to 688 of this title shall apply with respect to such reserve or deferral in the same manner and with the same effect as if such report of the Comptroller General were a special message transmitted by the President under section 683 or 684 of this title, and, for purposes of sections 682 to 688 of this title, such report shall be considered a special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this title.[/COLOR] And [COLOR=#006600] [B]§687. Suits by Comptroller General[/B] If, under this chapter, budget authority is required to be made available for obligation and such budget authority is not made available for obligation, the Comptroller General is hereby expressly empowered, through attorneys of his own selection, to bring a civil action in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to require such budget authority to be made available for obligation, and such court is hereby expressly empowered to enter in such civil action, against any department, agency, officer, or employee of the United States, any decree, judgment, or order which may be necessary or appropriate to make such budget authority available for obligation.[/COLOR] The law provides its own remedies, but they do not include impeachment. [/QUOTE]
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