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Until, of course God says otherwise. The only reason you even love at all is because you think God tells you to. If God told you to hate, you would. Your love for others is by your own admission entirely empty and done for reasons of obedience.I don't claim to be moral nor do I care about being moral. I care about knowing and loving God and loving the people he created.
I don't know. You're splitting hairs. However God chooses to communicate to you, would you kill for him?How do you imagine he would communicate with me? Through a vision? Audible voice? Through the Bible?
Until, of course God says otherwise. The only reason you even love at all is because you think God tells you to. If God told you to hate, you would. Your love for others is by your own admission entirely empty and done for reasons of obedience.
I don't know. You're splitting hairs. However God chooses to communicate to you, would you kill for him?
Yet given your previous assertions this still remains entirely empty. Your desire to love is there solely because you believe God commands you to love.God has already spoken. He will not speak otherwise. I love God because I have experienced his love for me. This fills me up and inspires me to love others.
The hypothetical assumes that it is in fact God and you know it.It is actually important. God has already spoken by his son Jesus. If I saw a vision of an angel telling me to kill or heard an audible voice I know that it is not from God.
Yet given your previous assertions this still remains entirely empty. Your desire to love is there solely because you believe God commands you to love.
The hypothetical assumes that it is in fact God and you know it.
So if God actually did order you to kill, would you do it?
How is it a logically incoherent question? My original question was always the same, you just chose to focus in on the prospect of it not being God (in which case I would have asked "How would you know if God was communicating with you?")This, then, has become a logically incoherent question and cannot be answered.
How is it a logically incoherent question? My original question was always the same, you just chose to focus in on the prospect of it not being God (in which case I would have asked "How would you know if God was communicating with you?")
If you don't want to answer it, fine but it is an entirely reasonable question especially in light of some of your amoral statements and attitude.
There was no "certain" there. There was only some group. The group could be anyone.The OP was not hypothetical. You asked "If God commanded a certain group of people be killed, would it be wrong?" God has commanded that certain people be killed.
It became hypothetical when you asked "If God asked you to kill someone, would you do it?"
Do you see how your question changed?
If God commanded you to kill through his written word, would you do it?It has become logically incoherent because the God we're talking about speaks through his Word (his written word and incarnate word, Jesus). He doesn't tell individuals to do things contrary to his written word. This God, therefore, cannot command me to kill in a private, vision-like way. He can only command me to kill through his written word. So the question has become logically incoherent.
Here's a better question: If God does choose to kill someone, or some group of people would his reasoning matter to you?
If God commanded you to kill through his written word, would you do it?
Can you expand on this?I'm not sure.
Why does the word "innocent" have any meaning to you? You've already described morality as a "silly concept" and affirmed God's right to kill groups of people.Yes. This would be if I was in law enforcement or in the army and I was required to carry out justice or defend the innocent. Otherwise God does not command killing.
Can you expand on this?
Why does the word "innocent" have any meaning to you? You've already described morality as a "silly concept" and affirmed God's right to kill groups of people.
That you would answer anything other than "yes" there is scary.I've not yet experienced this so I don't know how I would feel.
I'm wondering why you assert value in ideals founded in morality (such as innocence) when you basically rejected it earlier and affirmed God's right to do what he likes.I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
That you would answer anything other than "yes" there is scary.
I'm wondering why you assert value in ideals founded in morality (such as innocence) when you basically rejected it earlier and affirmed God's right to do what he likes.
You missed the point entirely. Do you have any idea how you're coming across in this thread?Boo.
Why do you care about the helpless? Seriously, if only God matters at all times to you then surely your interest in the innocent or the helpless is conditional on what he wants or want is of interest to you in regards to God?Maybe "helpless" is a better word.
You missed the point entirely. Do you have any idea how you're coming across in this thread?
Why do you care about the helpless?
Seriously, if only God matters at all times to you then surely your interest in the innocent or the helpless is conditional on what he wants or want is of interest to you in regards to God?
That doesn't upset me. I just wonder if you honestly know how you're coming across in this thread.I apologize for being snarky.
But you don't. Yours is conditional. That's my point.Because God cares about the helpless. And because I was helpless and God cared about me.
Yes, but God cares deeply for those who are helpless.
That doesn't upset me. I just wonder if you honestly know how you're coming across in this thread.
But you don't. Yours is conditional. That's my point.
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