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What is a "deistic God?" By the way FSM is just another name. You materialists just think you're on to something.-A god (Any God or Gods, I'm going with FSM) < This includes deistic Gods.
In theism God is personal, which is what you would expect if God was omnipresent (theistic pantheism), and his presence the result of creation (deism). It's the same thing, chief.I can keep going forever, making up Gods and causes, but it doesn't make Theism, deism, pantheism, or any other belief in a God true.
And just because you say that does not make it true. Why don't you try talking about yourself instead of AV.
Let's do a test... I'm going to say exactly what you said about AV and you tell me how true it is.
Here goes...
"And yet only 1% of your posts have words."
Now there you go... just because I posted it does it make it true. I'd say "not." Just like I'd say "not" about yours. What does that tell us??
I'd say it tells us that you made a ridiculous claim about AV's posts.
End of test.
Can I use that same test regarding unsupported Christian beliefs? Because so far you've rejected it (and failed it) every time.
"Yahweh is the one TRUE God!"
"Allah is the one TRUE God!"
"No, you see the thing is, Yahweh is the one true God. Allah isn't, so your statement is false, while mine is true."
Different names, same being.
With a deistic god (no capital G) I would not expect claims of eternal souls, afterlife, absolute morals, etc.What is a "deistic God?" By the way FSM is just another name. You materialists just think you're on to something.
In theism God is personal, which is what you would expect if God was omnipresent (theistic pantheism), and his presence the result of creation (deism). It's the same thing, chief.
You don't actually look at all of AV's posts, do you?
He'd be lying if he said they weren't mostly counting threads.
I think for those who whine about my post count -- it's called the Law of Jealousy?There was a 'law', back when bbs' started to rise in popularity, that was directed at posters whose contribution to a site could remain static despite the rise in post count. I can't recall the name of it at the moment.
Different names, same being.
Nah -- I know sympathy when I see it.Sympathy more like it.
I will make mself more clear, for you. I believe that the Bible is the Word of God. Therefore, I believe that God is the creator of everything.
Without a universe, a solar system, or an earth there would be nothing to evolve. So, I go back to the beginning.
Now lets look at a summary of the Genesis theory of Creation:
God made the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in the following order:
· Day 1: The earth without any form; water; light
· Day 2: The sky, the earths atmosphere
· Day 3: The bodies of water; the dry land; vegetation
· Day 4: The sun, moon, and stars to serve as signs, seasons, days, and years.
· Day 5: The aquatic creatures; the birds
· Day 6: The land creatures; man
Can these two things, evolution and creation, work together?
As a Christian, I believe in creation (In the beginning God created ) with ongoing micro-evolution of the species.
Nope, no one is interested in your "simple" test. Somethings are above that.
A deistic God is one who takes no interest in humans specifically. Therefore one wouldn't feel a need to pray to this God, a God who is more like an ambiguous creator than a God. Most of the founding fathers were deists for example.What is a "deistic God?" By the way FSM is just another name. You materialists just think you're on to something.
Not quite. Deistic: Created the universe one way or another. Doesn't care, not necessarily all powerful. (or powerful at all) Theistic: Created the universe via selected creation myth. Usually cares. Decides our fate after we die.In theism God is personal, which is what you would expect if God was omnipresent (theistic pantheism), and his presence the result of creation (deism). It's the same thing, chief.
Where did she say that? I can't find it at all.You just know the test will show people aren't hearing anything special, merely a 'voice in their head'.
Where did she say that? I can't find it at all.
It's odd that you would quote it if she didn't say it at all though...She didn't, but I'm just stating a reason why she'd claim that some things are 'beyond' testing. The only things 'beyond' testing are untestable and worthless claims, assertions and conjectures.
False dichotomy. It could just be truly sad.Nah -- I know sympathy when I see it.
More like jealousy or hatred.
After all, there's a difference in what whiners do -- and this: 1
The choice is yours though.
Well, why don't you tell us your beliefs then and we'll try to help you give them a good shake.
A "deistic God" is everywhere (theistic pantheism) including life and takes interest in human affairs through such (theism).A deistic God is one who takes no interest in humans specifically. Therefore one wouldn't feel a need to pray to this God, a God who is more like an ambiguous creator than a God. Most of the founding fathers were deists for example.
And some radio waves are EM radiation, some aren't.As for your second statement. Each of those Gods thinks different things. Some are eternally loving, some not so much. Some are perfect, some imperfect. Some care, some don't. It becomes really important which one is real.
To create the universe out of itself (deism) is to be a part of the universe and all that is in it (theistic pantheism). Power also stems from the attribute of being the basic substrate of things. The presense in all things becomes all power (theism).Not quite. Deistic: Created the universe one way or another. Doesn't care, not necessarily all powerful. (or powerful at all) Theistic: Created the universe via selected creation myth. Usually cares. Decides our fate after we die.
It simply means that "cake" takes on the attribute of God, desserts its conventional meaning and adopts the information that was encoded within "first cause."I choose cake. That's right, an inter-dimensional cake created our universe. Not by force of will, it's just something it spontaneously does. The cake is eternal and unchanging and moreover, it doesn't inhabit our dimension so it doesn't require a cause. (our slogan: "The cake is not a lie.")
A complete vacuum was not attained in that experiment.Can you honestly tell me the above fits within the category of a God? (you also completely ignored the non-being related causes like Quantum Fluctuations)
Then the FSM simply takes on the definition of God. I can say that my computer runs on FSM. I load my car up on unleaded FSM. We breathe in FSM and exhale FSM. Information is transmitted through the air via FSM, etc.I will make your point more inane: I believe the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Word of His Noodliness. Therefore, I believe that FSM is the creator of everything.
Anybody can use science.Now now, don't go misusing scientific terms in an attempt to make your assertion more 'science-y'. It is not a theory, it is an assertion, or at best, a hypothesis.
No you don't. When elements came to man's awareness it would have been through elements, atoms came- through atoms, sub atomic particles- same, and so on. You only think that it has ended. The finest has not been reached and God is inevitable.Well that's a very nice story you've got there. Too bad we know very well how the sun formed, how the earth formed, and how it came to be the way it is now.
The Hindu creation account as wel as others are used. Within it is the biblical account and within the biblical account its there. The extraction and discarding of relevant patterns goes beyond those two.How is your creation myth any more valid than, say, the Hindu creation account?
He would have to believe in Darwin's assertions first before any type of microbial origination becomes relevant.Well, I guess you can believe God sparked the first life in the primordial soup, or that perhaps he guided it along, or sparked the universe, etc etc.
What speciation events?Define species (or what you're calling a species) and tell me how 'micro-evolution' can account for speciation events that we've observed. Or describe to me exactly what limits evolution to the species (which it most definitely isn't).
A "deistic God" is everywhere (theistic pantheism) including life and takes interest in human affairs through such (theism).
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