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If Adam and Eve did not exist........

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I know that many Catholics accept evolution, though I know the belief that Mankind came from two people is also accepted by Catholics.

I also know, that other people say that the population that existed in the days of the earliest humans (referring to homo-sapiens, not the other groups) was larger then just two individuals.

So lets say hypothetically speaking these people are right. The Church is wrong in this matter, that there is no historical adam and eve that gave rise to all of Mankind (at least in the days of homo sapiens, perhaps some could say adam and eve were in fact in even earlier days).

How would this affect your faith? Especially the concept of "Original Sin" (could a variant of it still exist even if sin did not come from just two people?)
 
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Adam, Eve, and Evolution


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I would not accept such a thing as fact

maybe Adam and Eve might have been "pre-homosapien" humans who had souls and broke the friendship between God and mankind...

I used to believe in Theistic Evolution, but now I lean more towards Creationism, not a STRONG Creationist, but it is where I lean
 
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Of the concepts that I've heard, the one that makes the most sense in terms of reconciling faith and science is that God called two individuals out of a larger population and breathed his pneuma (ruach) into them, which set them apart. Thus leading to the Adam and Eve narrative.
 
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I accept that A&E might not have been two humans. It does seem to be fact that the initial human population was far bigger than just two individuals.

But then I wonder why the RCC wants a literal character within an allegorical story? If they are forcing A&E to be literal characters - does that make Cain and Able also literal? Noah? etc etc. That entire genealogy is a theological construct - not a reality.
 
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I would not accept it

That is not really answering my question.

I am aware in reality, you do not accept that there is no Adam and Eve, and that's fine, but that's not the point of my question. I am asking how you would react (with your faith) if something you don't believe (no historical adam and eve) in was proven a fact without a shadow of a doubt in a "what if"/hypothetical/fictional scenario in which even the Church agreed with the evidence.
 
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I would employ the Double Think as described in 1984 written by George Orwell, I would look at the facts, file them away in a compartment of my brain, and then, through a conscience act of will, forget them.

So even if it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I would still deny it

but for this particular issue, I think it is suspect, trying to "prove" anything about the past is so... subjective ...

but yes, I trust in God more then I trust in my own reason
 
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That's faith for you.
 
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If you read Joseph Ratzinger, the "special creation" of man subsists in the moment when someone first conceived the concept "god".

He seems to be far from taking Pius XII's analysis as as definitive and concrete as (largely American) websites seem to.
 
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Difficulties with Adam and Eve

Difficulties with Adam and Eve
 
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Hello American Christian,

Have you ever heard of Mitochondrial Eve? Science, as well as the Church, believe that all mankind descended from one woman.


Mitochondrial Eve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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WOW!

I'd like to read more of this kinda stuff - unfortunately I'm not that well read in the more liberal / less literal readings of Genesis.
 
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