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ICE Is Sending Asylum-Seekers to the Private Prison Where Abuse Exposed
 

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If they hadn't come here illegally then they wouldn't be sent to prison.....private or otherwise.
It's not illegal to present yourself at the border seeking asylum and being allowed to come in to await an asylum hearing in the courts.
 
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You seemed to be under the impression that applying for asylum somehow negates the fact that they illegally crossed the border. In my understanding, that's not the case. One can legally apply for asylum without crossing the border illegally. As people who have broken the law....they are treated like people who have broken the law.

If it makes you feel better though...it's also my understanding that the majority of asylum seekers are now being sent to detention centers in Mexico while they wait out the months for their applications to go through the overwhelmed asylum system. Mexico is being so accommodating in fact, they're being offered the opportunity to get free transportation back to their home countries. This is extremely kind of Mexico...since nearly all asylum seekers are coming here without any money or funds at all, which makes it difficult to travel anywhere once they are released from detention.

So if you're worried about the conditions they face it US facilities, don't worry....I'm sure Mexican facilities are much closer to what they're used to.
 
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It's not illegal to present yourself at the border seeking asylum and being allowed to come in to await an asylum hearing in the courts.

If you do so at a port of entry....yes, you are correct.

People crossing illegally are still allowed to apply for asylum, but they did cross illegally, whether they are granted or denied asylum.
 
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It's not illegal to present yourself at the border seeking asylum and being allowed to come in to await an asylum hearing in the courts.
Never said it was but they can still be detained until they have been investigated. And there is no law against requiring them to wait in Mexico, which is the appropriate place for them to make application and wait, as their case goes through the system.
 
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One of the big problem with these facilities is they pay their workers less than state-run facilities, which means more drugs enter the prison and more violence. The next problem is they are understaffed, something the corporation does to save money, which leads to much of the abuse and violence we see in private prisons across the countries.

The facilities mentioned in this article is rife with mismanagement and misconduct. The bigger issue is that private prisons are just a bad idea. Private prisons are more dangerous than public prisons, one reason why the previous administration planned to end private prisons at the federal level. However, the current regime is all about enriching their donors and corporate friends. And when your former cabinet members start joining the boards of private prisons, it's quite evident how bigoted policies hurt the nation.

I really thought the abuses at these facilities were going to come out next year, but the corruption of these facilities was just too much to hide. But of course we have the eager supporters who will always looks the other way.

Trump and the merchants of detention
Is it cruelty, or is it corruption? That's a question that comes up whenever we learn about some new, extraordinary abuse by the Trump administration — something that seems to happen just about every week.

And the answer, usually, is "both."
 
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I agree that private prisons are a bad idea. We don't even need to know what conditions exist in the private prisons to understand this....there is no way to allow them to go bankrupt. That means that no matter how bad a business they are, no matter how poorly they're run, the public will have to prop them up anyway. It's not as if we can simply let prisoners go....and overcrowding in public prisons makes transferring prisoners to the public sector a bad option as well.

This leaves private prisons exempt from the market forces that regulate basically all other kinds of private businesses in a free market system.

Saying this is somehow on Trump's shoulders is silly though....this has been a problem for decades. He may not have fixed it, but it's not as if he created the problem.
 
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Elizabeth Warren Wants to Ban 'Corrupt and Inhumane' Private Prisons
 
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You have to be in the country to claim asylum, that’s what asylum is!
 
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If they hadn't come here illegally then they wouldn't be sent to prison.....private or otherwise.

It's not illegal to present yourself at the border seeking asylum and being allowed to come in to await an asylum hearing in the courts.


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You have to be in the country to claim asylum, that’s what asylum is!
When you come to a port of entry where do you think you are?

You seem conflused CWB
 
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