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1 Kings 3:14
So if you walk in My ways and keep My statutes and commandments, just as your father David did, I will prolong your days."

In this passage, God is speaking to Solomon, the son of King David. God promises Solomon wisdom, understanding, and long life if he follows His ways and obeys His commandments, just as his father David did 1. It’s a beautiful reminder of the importance of living righteously.

  1. Wisdom and Guidance: Just as God granted Solomon wisdom, we can seek divine wisdom through prayer, meditation, and studying Scripture. When faced with decisions or challenges, we can ask for guidance and discernment.
  2. Obedience and Blessings: The promise of a long life was conditional on Solomon’s obedience to God’s commandments. Similarly, our obedience to God’s principles leads to blessings and favor. Living according to God’s ways brings fulfillment and purpose.
  3. Legacy: Solomon’s father, David, set an example of faithfulness. Our actions impact future generations. By following God’s ways, we leave a positive legacy for our children and others.
Remember that while the specific context of Solomon’s reign differs from ours, the underlying principles—wisdom, obedience, and legacy—remain applicable.
 

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Nothing to do with science.
You are 100% wrong. Science is all about having a LONG life. I am testimony to that. If it were NOT for science I would NOT be alive and we would NOT be having this conversation.

The question is DOES science give us a LONG life or does following the law and the commandments of God give us a long healthy life. I am told hell is reserved for people who do not want to follow the law and commandments of God. There can be a lot of pain and sufferings in this life. Does science offer us all we need. Do they have every answer and every solution to whatever we encounter in life. OR do we need to trust and believe in God?

Do people really reject God or do they reject living right? Because science goes a LONG way to teach us how to live right and a good, healthy lifestyle. People say we are not under the law, we can eat what we want. Science says eat right or you will get sick and end up with heart disease or diabetes or a lot of diseases based on our diet. By science I mean the Ornish diet is designed to give us a long life free from sickness and disease.

Do we need science? Yes. Do we need the Bible? Yes, we need both to prosper.
 
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You are 100% wrong. Science is all about having a LONG life. I am testimony to that. If it were NOT for science I would NOT be alive and we would NOT be having this conversation.

The question is DOES science give us a LONG life or does following the law and the commandments of God give us a long healthy life. I am told hell is reserved for people who do not want to follow the law and commandments of God. There can be a lot of pain and sufferings in this life. Does science offer us all we need. Do they have every answer and every solution to whatever we encounter in life. OR do we need to trust and believe in God?

Do people really reject God or do they reject living right? Because science goes a LONG way to teach us how to live right and a good, healthy lifestyle. People say we are not under the law, we can eat what we want. Science says eat right or you will get sick and end up with heart disease or diabetes or a lot of diseases based on our diet. By science I mean the Ornish diet is designed to give us a long life free from sickness and disease.

Do we need science? Yes. Do we need the Bible? Yes, we need both to prosper.

No, this is not science. This is apologetics, and it does not belong in the science forum.
 
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No, this is not science. This is apologetics, and it does not belong in the science forum.
You are 1000% wrong. Science teaches us to follow our Bible if we want to live a long life. We need to follow the laws of science and the laws of the Bible to live a long life of health and prosperity. We can not live a life of sin and rebellion. God establishes TWO witness. The Bible and Science. They work together and you can not separate them.

People say wealth and health, peace and property. Look at a knife. In the hands of a surgeon it can promote health and healing. In the hands of a criminal it can promote death and destruction. We make that choice. Science and the Bible both give us a choice between life, health and prosperity or death and destruction.

Life is always the right choice. You want to divorce science and religion and that is as divorce made in hell.
 
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You are 1000% wrong. Science teaches us to follow our Bible if we want to live a long life. We need to follow the laws of science and the laws of the Bible to live a long life of health and prosperity. We can not live a life of sin and rebellion. God establishes TWO witness. The Bible and Science. They work together and you can not separate them.

People say wealth and health, peace and property. Look at a knife. In the hands of a surgeon it can promote health and healing. In the hands of a criminal it can promote death and destruction. We make that choice. Science and the Bible both give us a choice between life, health and prosperity or death and destruction.

Life is always the right choice.

Nothing of what you're saying about the Bible has anything to do with science. None at all.
 
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Nothing of what you're saying about the Bible has anything to do with science. None at all.
Your beating a dead horse. YOU NEED BOTH SCIENCE AND THE BIBLE TO LIVE A LONG LIFE OF HEALTH AND PROSPERITY. You can not divorce them. Esp on a christian forum. Science and the Bible both tell us HOW to live right. Even Science give us MORE of a testimony than the Bible on how to live a healthy life. As I already mentioned the Ornish diet is designed to give us health and a long life. Yet you want to reject science and what they have to offer.
 
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You are 1000% wrong. Science teaches us to follow our Bible if we want to live a long life. We need to follow the laws of science and the laws of the Bible to live a long life of health and prosperity. We can not live a life of sin and rebellion. God establishes TWO witness. The Bible and Science. They work together and you can not separate them.

People say wealth and health, peace and property. Look at a knife. In the hands of a surgeon it can promote health and healing. In the hands of a criminal it can promote death and destruction. We make that choice. Science and the Bible both give us a choice between life, health and prosperity or death and destruction.

Life is always the right choice. You want to divorce science and religion and that is as divorce made in hell.
The Physical and Life Sciences Forum was established as a forum for the discussion of scientific issues in a scientific context. It is not intended as a place for debating science vs theology. There are any number of forums available for this purpose.

This is from the Statement of Purpose for this Forum.

The Physical & Life Sciences forum is a discussion and debate area on physics, biology, chemistry and other physical sciences. Other physical sciences may include but is not limited to astronomy, earth science, archaeology, climate change, ecology, geology, oceanography and energy.
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The Physical and Life Sciences Forum was established as a forum for the discussion of scientific issues in a scientific context. It is not intended as a place for debating science vs theology. There are any number of forums available for this purpose.

This is from the Statement of Purpose for this Forum.

The Physical & Life Sciences forum is a discussion and debate area on physics, biology, chemistry and other physical sciences. Other physical sciences may include but is not limited to astronomy, earth science, archaeology, climate change, ecology, geology, oceanography and energy.
OB

You beat me to it but I'll also add this from the Statement of Purpose too:

General Apologetics: This is not a forum where Christians are asked to defend their faith against objections and criticism from non-believers. Non-Christians are not allowed to challenge Christian theology, beliefs and practices here or in any forum at Christianforums.
 
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Your beating a dead horse. YOU NEED BOTH SCIENCE AND THE BIBLE TO LIVE A LONG LIFE OF HEALTH AND PROSPERITY. You can not divorce them. Esp on a christian forum. Science and the Bible both tell us HOW to live right. Even Science give us MORE of a testimony than the Bible on how to live a healthy life. As I already mentioned the Ornish diet is designed to give us health and a long life. Yet you want to reject science and what they have to offer.

Buddy, as you've been shown by Occams Barber, nothing of your OP has anything to do with science and is thus against the purpose of this subforum.
 
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1 Kings 3:14
So if you walk in My ways and keep My statutes and commandments, just as your father David did, I will prolong your days."

In this passage, God is speaking to Solomon, the son of King David. God promises Solomon wisdom, understanding, and long life if he follows His ways and obeys His commandments, just as his father David did 1. It’s a beautiful reminder of the importance of living righteously.

  1. Wisdom and Guidance: Just as God granted Solomon wisdom, we can seek divine wisdom through prayer, meditation, and studying Scripture. When faced with decisions or challenges, we can ask for guidance and discernment.
  2. Obedience and Blessings: The promise of a long life was conditional on Solomon’s obedience to God’s commandments. Similarly, our obedience to God’s principles leads to blessings and favor. Living according to God’s ways brings fulfillment and purpose.
  3. Legacy: Solomon’s father, David, set an example of faithfulness. Our actions impact future generations. By following God’s ways, we leave a positive legacy for our children and others.
Remember that while the specific context of Solomon’s reign differs from ours, the underlying principles—wisdom, obedience, and legacy—remain applicable.
Not science.

Let’s try to make it science adjacent.

What about all the devout followers of God who live short painful lives. Like kids born with AIDS?
 
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Science teaches us to follow our Bible if we want to live a long life.
No it doesn’t. Sometimes the Bible gets the low hanging science fruit right. Like the names of cities. Other things it get’s things very wrong; bats aren’t birds

Science conflicts with Bible many many times.
 
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1 Kings 3:14
So if you walk in My ways and keep My statutes and commandments, just as your father David did, I will prolong your days."

In this passage, God is speaking to Solomon, the son of King David. God promises Solomon wisdom, understanding, and long life if he follows His ways and obeys His commandments, just as his father David did 1. It’s a beautiful reminder of the importance of living righteously.

  1. Wisdom and Guidance: Just as God granted Solomon wisdom, we can seek divine wisdom through prayer, meditation, and studying Scripture. When faced with decisions or challenges, we can ask for guidance and discernment.
  2. Obedience and Blessings: The promise of a long life was conditional on Solomon’s obedience to God’s commandments. Similarly, our obedience to God’s principles leads to blessings and favor. Living according to God’s ways brings fulfillment and purpose.
  3. Legacy: Solomon’s father, David, set an example of faithfulness. Our actions impact future generations. By following God’s ways, we leave a positive legacy for our children and others.
Remember that while the specific context of Solomon’s reign differs from ours, the underlying principles—wisdom, obedience, and legacy—remain applicable.
David is said to live 70 years, which is not much from the modern point of view. But it may be a symbolic number representing "fullness" so we might not know his real life span.

Solomon is said to live 94 years, which is a good age even from our modern point of view, however, there are no scientific details of for example his nutrition. Just "being a Christian" does not guarantee a long physical life, many Christian die young, in accidents and similar.
 
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As I already mentioned the Ornish diet is designed to give us health and a long life.
Yeah, but like all diets it’s perfect and like all firsts it has nothing to do with the Bible.

You can be perfectly healthy without the Bible. Indeed America with it’s outlier high levels of Christianity seems to have a lower average age of death than the other developed nations.

So it seems taking the Bible away actually improves lifespan.

Thoughts?
 
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The Physical and Life Sciences Forum was established as a forum for the discussion of scientific issues
That is what we are doing. We are talking about the SCIENCE of living a long and healthy life. WE are talking about how SCIENCE gives us a witness and a testimony that the Bible is true and accurate.

Many people have tried to use science to show us the Bible is not accurate and true and they have ALL failed. Science shows us how accurate and true the Bible is. In this case Science AND the Bible tell us how to be healthy and live a long life. Again maybe I should have put ORNISH in the title so you know what I am talking about.

The Ornish Diet, part of the Ornish Lifestyle Medicine Program, aims to reverse heart disease and improve overall health. Here’s how it works:

  1. Dietary Focus:
    • Low-Fat, Vegetarian: The Ornish diet emphasizes plant-based foods and restricts dietary fat to only 10% of daily caloric intake.
Do you realize the Bible says that Elis sons were evil and wicked because they ate fat? Their actions violated God’s laws and they violated science that tries to show us HOW to avoid heart disease.

 
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That is what we are doing. We are talking about the SCIENCE of living a long and healthy life. WE are talking about how SCIENCE gives us a witness and a testimony that the Bible is true and accurate.

It sounds more like you were shown to be wrong and are scrambling to save face.
 
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Science teaches us to follow our Bible if we want to live a long life.

Science can take a hike.

If I need science to teach me to follow our Bible, then I'm in serious trouble.
 
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If I need science to teach me to follow our Bible, then I'm in serious trouble.
I am talking about diet and the food we eat. Eli's son are called evil and wicked because they ate the fat on the meat before it was boiled off. Science, IE Dr Ornish has done studies and shows us how true the Bible is. So if we do not follow our Bible to eat right there is a price to pay for that. They just went in and checked me. No stents, no ballons so I am clear. They were surprised because they put a stent in my 20 years ago. But now I follow my Bible to try to eat right.
 
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I am talking about diet and the food we eat. Eli's son are called evil and wicked because they ate the fat on the meat before it was boiled off. Science, IE Dr Ornish has done studies and shows us how true the Bible is. So if we do not follow our Bible to eat right there is a price to pay for that. They just went in and checked me. No stents, no ballons so I am clear. They were surprised because they put a stent in my 20 years ago. But now I follow my Bible to try to eat right.

Saying that Eli's sons had disrespect for the priestly customs of the Jews and thus disrespect for God as a diet thing is truly bizarre and one of the weirdest readings of the Bible I've ever seen.
 
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I am talking about diet and the food we eat. Eli's son are called evil and wicked because they ate the fat on the meat before it was boiled off. Science, IE Dr Ornish has done studies and shows us how true the Bible is. So if we do not follow our Bible to eat right there is a price to pay for that. They just went in and checked me. No stents, no ballons so I am clear. They were surprised because they put a stent in my 20 years ago. But now I follow my Bible to try to eat right.
“But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate.’
Lk 15:22
 
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