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foadle

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Hi guys. I don't know how many of you remember a thread a while back on whether or not God can lie. I argued that God could indeed lie but that he did not. I was very wrong. God can't lie. sorry to you all for expressing what was not truth.
 

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Hi guys. I don't know how many of you remember a thread a while back on whether or not God can lie. I argued that God could indeed lie but that he did not. I was very wrong. God can't lie. sorry to you all for expressing what was not truth.



No, foadle, you weren’t wrong. With God all things are possible.

If there is no darkness IN Him, how can darkness proceed FROM Him?
 
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Hi guys. I don't know how many of you remember a thread a while back on whether or not God can lie. I argued that God could indeed lie but that he did not. I was very wrong. God can't lie. sorry to you all for expressing what was not truth.
Thats awesome...that you are able to acknowledge this...God bless you!!!

whether God can lie or not...is not the real issue..but this is great that people can learn as we walk our journey...sometimes ppl are set upon what they feel are right and almost stubborn to it....but we have to be open to receive from God wisdom and understanding....

This forum is great that there are people from different places, backgrounds, many who are well read in the word of God...many who are annointed with wisdom and understanding, etc...we as a body can learn from each other
 
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Hi guys. I don't know how many of you remember a thread a while back on whether or not God can lie. I argued that God could indeed lie but that he did not. I was very wrong. God can't lie. sorry to you all for expressing what was not truth.


I'm curious... What made you change your mind?

I'm not looking for a debate here and I do not plan to try to change your mind... I'm just curious as to what it was that convinced you.
 
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If there is no darkness IN Him, how can darkness proceed FROM Him?

I don’t know, churchlady, wasn’t it God who sent darkness on Egypt? How do you explain …
Joshua 24. 7 But they cried to the LORD for help, and he put darkness between you and the Egyptians.

Isaiah 45. 3 I will give you the treasures of darkness, riches stored in secret places, so that you may know that I am the LORD, the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
\o/


Faith is not faith until it's all you're holding on to.
 
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Is commissioning a lie the same thing as telling one?

  1. 1 Kings 22:22
    " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
    1 Kings 22:21-23 (in Context) 1 Kings 22 (Whole Chapter)
  2. 1 Kings 22:23
    "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."
    1 Kings 22:22-24 (in Context) 1 Kings 22 (Whole Chapter)
  3. 2 Chronicles 18:21
    " 'I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
    2 Chronicles 18:20-22 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 18 (Whole Chapter)
  4. 2 Chronicles 18:22
    "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."
    2 Chronicles 18:21-23 (in Context) 2 Chronicles 18 (Whole Chapter)

Thoughts?

John O.
 
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Well, I'll use an analogy...

Is commissioning a murder the same as murdering someone?

According to the law it is.
 
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...yeh Jim I doubt God would lie, and Foadlea big part of this site is about learning, there is no real reason to apologize. I'm glad you have a better understanding of this topic though. God bless.

YBIC,
J

If God “cannot” lie (which He doesn’t) then how do you interpret “ALL” when Jesus said, “With God ALL things are possible.” Does all mean all or does it mean something else?

I realize we will never come to an agreement on whether God “cannot lie” (Titus 1.2 NKJV) or “does not lie” (Titus 1.2 NIV, NLT), but I am of the opinion that God can do anything. “With God ALL things are possible.”

\o/
Faith is not faith until it's all you're holding on to.
 
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When the state executes a serial killer, is it committing murder or executing justice?


Executing justice. And it's a good point. So are you saying that (applying it to the analogy) God has the authority to deceive by proxy so it's not really a lie?

[That's what makes it non-murder for the government - authority and justification].
 
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Is this really how you view that scripture "With God all things are possible"?
 
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Beautifully honest, Foadle.

Jim, someone is baring their heart on a revelation they have had from God and you have to stamp on it in the very first reply post... why?

Cheers,
|ZZ|

A revelation? From God? Did she say it was a “revelation”? If she did, I did not read it.

And why would you think it was a revelation, Z? Just because she agrees with you does not mean she got a “revelation”?

\o/


Faith is not faith until it's all you're holding on to.
 
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