I want to marry a non-Christian.

AbidingInHim · Oct 4, 2006

Lily, feel free to come to our check in thread and fellowship

http://www.christianforums.com/t3854361-check-in-thread-3.html

I apologize for turning your thread has turned into a debate, I try to hold my tounge and leave the rebuttals to others in the forum because I get a little passionate when people are misinterpretting the Lords Soveriegn Word
I apologize.....

Your character looks great,

you know, I was 27 when I started dating my h, we began dating in June and knew we this was it immediately, by October we were married, I never knew it was coming or would happen soooo fast, I was saved the following Spring, when I was pregnant,

God Bless

EnemyPartyII · Oct 4, 2006

Yeah, see? Pauls letter to the Corinthians... not a direct quote of Jesus.

EnemyPartyII · Oct 4, 2006

and, here is the passage about God commanding the Israelites to take unbelievers for wives...

Numbers 31

31:14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. [SIZE=-1] [/SIZE]31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. [SIZE=-1]
[/SIZE]31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

EnemyPartyII · Oct 4, 2006

Under God's direction, Moses' army defeats the Midianites. They kill all the adult males, but take the women and children captive. When Moses learns that they left some live, he angrily says: "Have you saved all the women alive? Kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." So they went back and did as Moses (and presumably God) instructed, killing everyone except for the virgins. In this way they got 32,000 virgins -- Wow! (Even God gets some of the booty -- including the virgins.)

So, presumeably... if the Israelites were alowed to marry unbelievers, so is Lily.

AbidingInHim · Oct 4, 2006

EnemyPartyII said:
and, here is the passage about God commanding the Israelites to take unbelievers for wives...

Numbers 31

31:14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle. 31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

If you will notice MOses was angry at them for keeping the women alive which was a sin and it also says why it was a sin that they lead them away from God

The reason of sparing the young were because they were not likely to have been corrupted and more easily converted to worship the Lord,

I would also ask you why it's okay for you to pick and choose which part of the Bible you recognize, you can reference moses, however disregard Paul's teaching

AbidingInHim · Oct 4, 2006

EnemyPartyII said:
So, presumeably... if the Israelites were alowed to marry unbelievers, so is Lily.

If what Lily's interest is what you have in mind why haven't you resspected her posted response to you

One would be wise not to presume when it comes to our HOLY Father and Soveriegn Lord

YOu have taken over her thread to debate you misguided beliefs I will not post to you anymore here, if you would like to open your own thread about whether it is biblical or not, feel free

this forum is set up specifically to support and unify those people who are struggling in this difficult situation, and not to debate, I'm wondering why you feel so comfortable posting on an issue you know nothing about

why do you think we have a forum to support one another and confort and edify one another in this difficult journey?

pete56 · Oct 5, 2006

EnemyPartyII said:
Actually... I have a heap of Biblical support. I'm working with the idea that Jesus knows more about what he's talking about than any human author, and Jesus only speaks of love and inclusion. Jesus doesn't want ANYONE excluded, and parables like "the Good Samaritan", clearly show that he placed greater importance on acts rather than silly semantics.

God is NOT setting us all up to fail with incomprehensibly unworkable and obscure laws.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

Accept Jesus as saviour, and then do your best in life. Salvation is NOT about checking the appropriate boxes. You won't get to the gates of heaven and have St. Peter say
"hmm, good person, check. Believes in Jesus as lord and saviour? check. Uhoh... says here you married a non believer. Oh well, its the pit for you!"

EnenyPartyII

Have you actually read the OP's post?

This situation you are advising upon is one where a believer in Jesus Christ is being called upon to change her beliefs by a man that does not believe in Jesus as his saviour.

So how exactly can you suggest that she will be able to both marry him in 'love' and retain her fiath in Jesus as her saviour?

You really should try to understand the facts as presented before you start offering your liberal advice here!

Pete

AbidingInHim · Oct 6, 2006

Lily,

haven't heard from you, is there anything we
can do for you, or a prayer request you'd like to share with us?

kayd1966 · Oct 6, 2006

I've actually started about 3 responses to this thread and have never finished any of them...this is just not the place.

I am truely sorry Lily for the way this thread has gone...you are in my prayers and I pray you join us in the Check-in Thread so we know how you are and how we can support you.

God Bless...

lily2424 · Oct 7, 2006

Don't worry about anything. It is all fine. I am still in my situation, but I know what i have to do...I just haven't done anything yet. The timing with all of this is so bad, but I guess there may never be a good time.

imaniingod · Oct 15, 2006

I will be praying for you. As a woman who had to move to the other side of the country to get away from an unequally yolked husband I can tell you that it is not the way to go. God bless

AbidingInHim · Nov 2, 2006

Lily, how are you?

HAven't heard from you in a while.

imaniingod · Nov 5, 2006

Happy Birthday Lily! God Bless you to have many more. Please contact us soon, this forum is very loving and supporting.

May the Lord our God be with you forevermore!

kayd1966 · Nov 5, 2006

We'd love to hear how you are doing Lily, please remember that you are in my prayers.

God Bless!

xliddledreamerx · Nov 21, 2006

I am in the same situation as you. The man I love is a Jehovas Witness, and I think God put me with him for a reason. We must spread the word of the Lord, and I will not give up on [my boyfriend] until he sees the light. It's like pulling teeth, and gets harder every day. He said this to me tonight: "this is going to be the gap that makes us or breaks us." I've gotten him to come to church with me, and I've gone to a Kingdom Hall with him. I didn't like what I heard or saw. He gave it a chance. That's the first step. Now I'm going to try continuous bible studies and debates. I found something online, a forum, and posted was a question "what made some non-christians become christians" and it gave me some great insight, I also found some things that pertained to only Jehovas Witnesses. Ex-Witnesses who gave up going to the KH and became born again christians.

I don't believe you should give up on your relationship with him. Plenty of people have been telling me to as well. I believe you should try to make a believer out of him. I truely believe thats what God would want. He wouldn't want you to give up on him.

I hope I helped in some way if any.

God Bless you. And have a WONDERFUL Thanksgiving

- Jeanine

pete56 · Nov 21, 2006

Jeanine

You will be added to my prayer list!

One thought though, remember that no one can be argued into God's Kingdom! Love is the real key and then let the HS do the convicting!

Most JW's do not experience love at KH.

Pete

imaniingod · Nov 24, 2006

pete56 said:
Jeanine

You will be added to my prayer list!

One thought though, remember that no one can be argued into God's Kingdom! Love is the real key and then let the HS do the convicting!

Most JW's do not experience love at KH.

Pete

Pete is right. I have a few JWs in my family and I tell them that I love them and they get real quiet. It is so sad to me, even my cousin who married a JW, there marriage is not affectionate. I am not just saying this, I am just trying to help you. One last thing JWs are not allowed to marry anyone who is not a JW.
God didnt put you with that man, you did. It is what you want, dont say that GOD did something that He didnt it is not right, I felt a churning in my spirit when I read that. I have been down that road a few times and so I know. Nothing good will come from it because after you are married, you will see and you will be like I was when I first came to CF, BUT GOD SHOWED MERCY AND GRACE WHEN I DIDNT EVEN DESERVE IT.

imaniingod · Nov 24, 2006

xliddledreamerx said:
I am in the same situation as you. The man I love is a Jehovas Witness, and I think God put me with him for a reason. We must spread the word of the Lord, and I will not give up on [my boyfriend] until he sees the light. It's like pulling teeth, and gets harder every day. He said this to me tonight: "this is going to be the gap that makes us or breaks us." I've gotten him to come to church with me, and I've gone to a Kingdom Hall with him. I didn't like what I heard or saw. He gave it a chance. That's the first step. Now I'm going to try continuous bible studies and debates. I found something online, a forum, and posted was a question "what made some non-christians become christians" and it gave me some great insight, I also found some things that pertained to only Jehovas Witnesses. Ex-Witnesses who gave up going to the KH and became born again christians.

I don't believe you should give up on your relationship with him. Plenty of people have been telling me to as well. I believe you should try to make a believer out of him. I truely believe thats what God would want. He wouldn't want you to give up on him.

I hope I helped in some way if any.

God Bless you. And have a WONDERFUL Thanksgiving

- Jeanine

Why would you go to Kingdom Hall with him? Dont compromise your relationship with the Lord for a man. Your husband could be waiting for you but you are spending your time with him and losing sight on God. I know that you desire a mate, I know what it is like to feel lonely and want someone to spend time with. I am single right now because I just got out of that situation. I married a nice man and he talked about getting saved and we went to church but it was not in him. You can not force that man to do anything. He will go to church to please you, not GOD and if it is not for God then he is going to make your life miserable after marriage. I could not believe all of the things that my soon to be ex put me through. I never would have thought that he would have treated me so bad he was so good to me when we were dating.

imaniingod · Nov 26, 2006

Posting because I care about you
Praying because I love you

Sandya · Dec 5, 2006

Hiii...I have a confession...I am married to an unbeliever...I am well aware of the verse "be ye not unequally yoked...". Truth be told I've often felt like I was unequally yoked when hooked up with believers (those within my circle of know-how)...in fact, I don't feel unequally yoked with my unbelieving husband though I sincerely pray for his salvation for I believe, with all my heart, that Jesus is the truth, the way and the life...we have difference of opinions...we respect each other's different beliefs and have a loving relationship...I am very fortunate to have such a loving and caring husband...I love him dearly...I have felt guilty about doing this but at the same time I felt like God was telling me He meant us to be...doubt anyone else will agree with that...The verses that I kept getting were 1 Peter 3: 1-4, "Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands so that, if any of them do not believe the word, they may be won over without words by the behavior of their wives, 2when they see the purity and reverence of your lives. 3Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair and the wearing of gold jewelry and fine clothes. 4Instead, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God's sight." The verse spoke to my heart and I don't regret marrying my husband...This is my experience...

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