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'I thought climate change was a hoax. Now I've changed my mind'
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<blockquote data-quote="Ana the Ist" data-source="post: 77467545" data-attributes="member: 302807"><p>*sneeze*</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So she wasn't so much against the idea of science....she just didn't understand the science behind climate change.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Doesn't she mean "climate change denier"?</p><p>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, the science seems to indicate it doesn't make any difference whether or not anyone convinces anyone else or not.</p><p></p><p>The US could be a zero emissions country tomorrow...and we'll still have climate change. You would need to convince the entire world. To people who don't have running water, toilets, a steady electric grid, or any of the other things we take for granted....the idea of "not buying a car" because it contributes to climate change is silly. The idea of not mining and burning coal for electricity is silly.</p><p></p><p>Even worse, there is no such thing as "clean energy". Solar panels are made in factories that pollute, with minerals mined from the ground by machines that pollute, and once they expire (because they expire after a few decades) they break down into an extremely toxic environment killing sludge....that we currently have no plans for disposal of.</p><p></p><p>There is no current solutions to climate change on the table. None. All we have are temporary changes that might slow it down (possibly, we aren't sure by how much). These changes are essentially economic suicide unless every nation changes....and one only needs to peek at the responses of nations like India or China to see that it won't happen.</p><p></p><p>All blaming "climate change deniers" does is allow someone to imagine themselves morally superior as they get new Amazon deliveries, a new SUV, or a new smartphone....by claiming that they'll stop contributing to climate change once the "deniers" do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ana the Ist, post: 77467545, member: 302807"] *sneeze* So she wasn't so much against the idea of science....she just didn't understand the science behind climate change. Doesn't she mean "climate change denier"? . Unfortunately, the science seems to indicate it doesn't make any difference whether or not anyone convinces anyone else or not. The US could be a zero emissions country tomorrow...and we'll still have climate change. You would need to convince the entire world. To people who don't have running water, toilets, a steady electric grid, or any of the other things we take for granted....the idea of "not buying a car" because it contributes to climate change is silly. The idea of not mining and burning coal for electricity is silly. Even worse, there is no such thing as "clean energy". Solar panels are made in factories that pollute, with minerals mined from the ground by machines that pollute, and once they expire (because they expire after a few decades) they break down into an extremely toxic environment killing sludge....that we currently have no plans for disposal of. There is no current solutions to climate change on the table. None. All we have are temporary changes that might slow it down (possibly, we aren't sure by how much). These changes are essentially economic suicide unless every nation changes....and one only needs to peek at the responses of nations like India or China to see that it won't happen. All blaming "climate change deniers" does is allow someone to imagine themselves morally superior as they get new Amazon deliveries, a new SUV, or a new smartphone....by claiming that they'll stop contributing to climate change once the "deniers" do. [/QUOTE]
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