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I Think I Suffer From OCD (Help)

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Hi everyone.

I found this forum via Google. I am not a Christian, but I need help outside the realm of medication (I do not believe in mind-altering medication) and as a person who comes from a family of ministers and servants of the church, I'm aware that Christians are among the most helpful and compassionate when seeking advice.

I believe I'm severely obsessive compulsive, though I haven't delved enough into the actual medical facts to confirm this. I will give you some in-depth details so you can better understand why it's so debilitating for me. I'm sorry if it's tedious to slog through it but I think it's necessary and will also help to get it off my chest.

I think I have shown symptoms since I was a small child. Most of my life I made "lists". Just listing different things related to hobbies I was involved in such as videogames. If the list wasn't perfect I would toss it out and make another one. My parents were aware of this and I eventually got out of the habit during junior high school. Another early sign (and this mainly happened during junior high school) is that I would give up on something if it wasn't perfect. I believe I am a very intelligent person, however I'm a creative-type and math has never been my forte. If I didn't start the class off strong, I'd just give up.

I believe, whatever this disorder may be, it may have had adverse effects on me during high school also, however it's at an all-time peak right now. I dropped out of college to write a graphic novel. This was a decision I made on my own and I believe I made the right decision. It is my passion in life and I believe it will be affecting to others in the same way some of my favorite works have effected me. However, I haven't made a lot of progress on it over the last couple years, I believe due to OCD. Here are symptoms I'm currently altered by:

-I compulsively purchase things I do not need. Though I fully intend to enjoy a novel or a record, I have a huge back-log of "stuff". Even though I don't have time for it and have other stuff to entertain me, I cannot stop buying stuff to fill my shelves, and this is hurting me financially which in turn leads to depression (the cruel circle, which I'll talk about). I work two grueling part-time jobs and then come home and try to work on my own projects. I'm always exhausted yet all the money I earn is thrown away.

-I have put on a massive amount of weight. I am depressed because of the state of things so I'll eat and put on weight, which in turn adds to the depression.

-I isolate myself from people. This is also related to my physical issue. I am, unfortunately, a very vain person and I'll turn people away because I don't want them to see me in this state. The problem with that is that it's not easy to lose weight. I believe some very great friends have given up on me because I'm always making excuses instead of going out. This in turn leads me to feel very lonely (the cruel circle). I think this may be an excuse, though. I am not certain why I turn people away.

-Again, related to my weight, I cannot go on a diet successfully. Everything has to be perfect for my diet to start and if it's not, I'll have to start it over. And always and the beginning of a week. I do not know why I do this to myself.

-I obsess over "stuff" and can only have the best of everything, even if I can't afford it. I'll do without stuff I need until I can afford the nicest possible item. This is recently a huge problem in my music (I'm a musicians). Instead of just getting what I need, I'll hold off. This does not bode well for instant creativity.

-One of the main reasons that I'm still working on my graphic novel, three years later, is that I cannot finish one project. I start a million little things, some of which aren't plausible at all (a flash-site based book which includes an ambient soundtrack; I don't even know how to program flash). I cannot finish anything. Even things which are totally leisurely like reading a novel or watching a film.

-Everything has to be perfect. If I wake up and watch a show I don't like I'll say, "What a waste of time, this day has been ruined," then wasting my day. This is something I can't seem to control.

I'm sure there are other bullet points but that's off the top of my head. This has got to stop. I'm going to school in the fall (Harvard's Studio for Electro-Acoustic Composition; this ties into another point in that, I can only have or do the absolute best or it is worth nothing) and I'm afraid that I'm going to have troubles in school as my quirks are at an all-time high. I haven't met with the artist on my graphic novel in over a month because I always make excuses not to see him. I'm not sure why I do that either. I just do, and that's the problem. I love and need people and I think I've ruined friendships that I can't rekindle. On the outside I'm a very strong (sometimes obnoxious) person, and I cannot understand why this is happening. Do I actually have control over it? It doesn't feel like it. But if I do, then it definitely feels like I'm punishing myself, because it makes me unhappy.

I hope someone can help. This all came to a peak this morning. My town is having a huge, two-day festival that happens once a year. I used to go all the time and it's a really fun time, as the entire town is just one big, friendly party. However, I'm not going this year. None of my friends have contacted me and this upsets me, yet I know if they were to call I'd just make excuses as to why I can't participate. So I was just sitting in my room with headphones on, listening to music and looking out the window and I thought, "I need help."

And I do need help. I don't know what I'm expecting to happen. I need advice and words of comfort I guess. I don't have money for a therapist, I am a studied in theology and I am not looking for religion (here, or anywhere), though I appreciate its comforting nature. I absolutely do not want medicine. So, yeah, I guess that's where I'm at right now. I hope someone can help me and I'm sorry for the lengthy and helter-skelter nature of this post. I was very much a spur of the moment thing. I teared up, got up and looked for help and this is where I ended up. Thanks for reading.
 

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Hi Candlestick,

Do you have Naturopaths or Doctors of Homeopathic medicine in your area? I understand your hesitation with medication especially because of your age. In the U.S. they just increased the warning age for use of antidepressants to 24. Talk with your doctor about alternative treatments like therapy or nutritional supplements like inositol.

I relate to the writing notes over and over. Also, at one time I spent all my money when I got it. Just couldn't hold onto it. Perhaps it would help to purchase certificates or savings bonds. That way your money is "locked up" ,so to speak, for a certain amount of time and earning interest. Believe me, at your age it would be good to save. Maybe after increasing your monies you could hire a typist to type your novel as you dictate.

Isolating from others... identify with you totally. If I took my own advice (ha-ha) I would tell you to take baby steps and get out there again. Feel the anxiety and live. Yes, easier said than done.

I will pray for you. Also, I hope you decide to visit a Christian church sometime. Sounds like you are open to discovery.

Take care
 
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Hmmm, you don't want medicine, and you don't want God. You can't go to a therapist....sounds like you are setting yourself up to fail.

I'm not sure you have ocd....you could be bi-polar, or any number of things.

I'm on meds, and they are not mind altering in the sense you are speaking of.

You seem very intelligent, thus you should know that even the brain can need medication to be healed.

Open up your mind to what other folks might be telling you. You have a very closed idea of what may be helpful to you.

You do need to be seen by a doctor. Even if you can't afford one, there are ways in this day and age to be able to see one.

And as for the fact that you don't want religion...I'm going to give you a little anyway. :) The fact that you are here is no accident. Christ came to give comfort in His salvation. He died and rose again for you. Whether you believe this or not, it still happened...and I don't think it's an accident that you came here today, either.

I pray you come to the knowledge of the truth in whatever illness you may have, and in our Lord who loves you dearly, and would take you in His Arms today. Only believe.

And yes, I will be praying for you.
seajoy
 
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It's interesting that you are from a family of believers and yet your don't believe. Sometimes I think people have a misconception that you must feel some overwhelming emotional response to accept Christ. Not everyone experiences Christ in the same manner. That is why we are all so different and there a so many different Christian churches. Some are more charismatic than others. You have obviously heard the gospel. And you obviously trust Christians. It's totally your decision and God knows your heart.

As far as the weight issues go, I too have them. Yes, I want perfect factors in place to start a diet. Unfortunately, that has led to a 50 lb. gain over the last year. Don't beat yourself up. Fat just happens to be the last thing (other than being blond) that people feel they can safely joke about. If they only knew. And isn't it ironic that people give compliments when we lose weight and we say, "Thank you", as if they had something to do with it. It's totally a health issue and it's about time for everyone to stop putting such a focus on the outer physical body size. We can't see the lung cancer of a smoker, or the brain cells of an alcoholic or the stone heart of a bully. Food issues just happen to show outwardly in compulsive eaters.

On that note, I have read that 30 min. daily exercise (walking even) will not only help reduce body weight, it creates endorphins which helps ease OCD. Also, medication may not be the answer because most of the time it is anti-depressants. Those are only approved for use in adults over 24. It might be helpful to check your local library for books on OCD such as BRAIN LOCK (suggests a four-step plan for alleviating symptoms).

Take care and God Bless:prayer:
 
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Hi, Candlestick, and welcome to the forum!

It's good that you have come to this point of seeking help, and I'm sure it will be the first step to recovery from whatever problem you may have.

I cannot diagnose you at all, but I must say that the symptoms you describe are not really the same as what I have experienced as an OCD-er. That's not to say that you don't have another form of OCD. I just don't know. Maybe someone else can relate to your symptoms. But what I am wondering about is another condition called OCPD - Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder. It sounds the same as OCD, but it's not. Check out this website http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000942.htm
or Google "OCPD". Note especially among the list of symptoms: perfectionism, preoccupation with lists, excessive devotion to work, and inability to throw things away. As I say, I am not in any way qualified to diagnose though. Maybe you should try and make just one appointment with a professional and at least find out what it is.

It's interesting that you have experienced that Christians are among the most helpful and compassionate when seeking advice. I have found the same thing. Could it be a coincidence or are we just nice people? Speaking for myself I would say neither. I am naturally a pretty selfish, introverted person. But God has changed me. And He has changed the people in this forum. Like you, I have no desire for "religion". What I need, and what I have found, is a living, dynamic relationship with Jesus. He is alive today and very much active. He has healed me of OCD and He can heal you of whatever is bothering you too. I know I probably sound like a religious nutcase, but millions of Christians can testify to the difference Jesus has made in their lives. I respect your choice, but I truly pray that you would come to know Him too.

Good luck in working through your problems.

Heather
 
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I am so glad you have reached out, Candlestick. I have to agree that I am by nature not compassionate or helpful (especially to people with "mental problems" as I would have said before I realized I was such a person), but believe that God has worked His will, and changed me in the midst of my bouts of OCD and depression.

I too pray for healing and peace for you. "Religion" put Christ on the cross. May you find a relationship with the living God.

Thank you for reaching out. Marc
 
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Hi Candlestick,
Great of you to open up.. I'll bet just doing that alone is beginning to help you to sort out what's wrong. I'm not sure it's OCD either with the exception of the "it has to be perfect and list making symptoms. In some ways it sounds a bit like ADD. My husband who is a really gifted, intelligent & creative individual has that. His idea of multitasking is to have 10 projects going at once and rare finish any of them. He has grandiose plans and ideas.. but lacks the ability to carry them out. He is impulsive like you mentioned and has a hard time controlling that when it comes to purchasing stuff. When he does anything, though, it has to be "Perfect" and he fusses over small details. He's a blurter... you just never know what will come out of his mouth. He's very funny, adventurous but also reckless and careless at times. And you know what, I love him just the way he is. It's easy for me to do so because I can look at him through the eyes of Christ and see him as a valuable and loved individual.. so valuable to God that He sent His own Son to die for Him to prove that love. That love is what makes it possible for all us OCD'ers to live joyfully even though we have OCD.
Also I'm just curious do you believe in the use of drugs to treat other organs in the body that aren't functioning correctly? Like the pancreas, the heart, the stomach etc.? Last time I checked it out I'm pretty sure that the brain is an organ too and capable of illness and chemical malfunctioning.. so sometimes it needs medication too in order to get it functioning properly again. That may or may not be the case for you only a Doctor can decide those things.
I'll be praying for you, that you will not only find answers for your mental well being but also for your spiritual well being too.
Don't give up!!
 
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