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People make the mistake of categorizing drugs as "addictive" or "non-addictive". This is true to an extent. While psychedelics don't typically result in the type of dependency that "euphoric" drugs do, it's all a matter of personal responsibility and maturity. This man is clearly lacking both. If you lie, cheat, and power-monger your way through a relationship, I don't care if all you do is smoke pot, it's only feeding the cycle. I'm all for certain substances being utilized in a responsible manner; however, drugs are not inherently "good" or "bad". Regardless of whether LSD can open the mind or not, if you're seeking out drugs just to do them, you're not only sabotaging its potential use, you're toying with neurochemistry - most likely on a more or less consistent basis, and combining many drugs.

One can't claim "You can't get addicted to LSD". It depends on the person. There are people addicted to eating cat hair, of all things. Anything can become addictive in the psychological sense, even if it does not produce physical withdrawal symptoms. If you claim a drug isn't addictive because your body doesn't come to rely on it, then you're also claiming that pornography is not addictive for the same reason.

I'm all for control over urges, don't get me wrong. I also take a defense stance on certain things being used for development. However, if someone possesses a number of dysfunctional qualities, CLEARLY the drugs aren't helping. If they were, the situation would be improving.

Rather, this story is a classic example of using the "spiritual potential" of drugs as a means to escape from reality and feed selfish desires. Justification at its finest.
 
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If I owned a publishing company I would totally offer you a book deal. That was basically laying it all out there in the best way possible.

As far as him saying drugs is his religion, he could also have been sarcastic about it. That still isn't a good sign. It shows that on serious issues (like drug use) he doesn't have enough respect to give you a straight answer.
 
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Thank you.

And of course, he may or may not have actually said that...but whether he did or not, in cases like this I tend to believe it IS the case - even if the user denies it.

IF a drug can induce a positive spiritual experience (once again, not trying to cause a debate), what use is it if you can't apply it in your sober life? During a very dark time in my life, I encountered God under the influence of oxycodone. Does this mean that I needed it to continue the relationship? No, the responsible thing to do would have been to restore my faith and stay away, but I chose the other option, that I NEEDED drugs. Whether it's possible to learn from substances or not, I don't care; nor am I going to experiment. Either way, repeated dosing means you didn't learn a thing in the first place.
 
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Alright I am not sure if you thought I was trying to start a debate with you or not, so just in case I will clarify that I didn't intend to sound like I was debating you. This could be just me misreading your last post, but I agree with every point you said

The canadian in me gives me the need to be apologetic lol
 
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Oh no, I wasn't talking about you!

I just wanted to ensure that everybody remained focused on the topic at hand...help for the OP. Wasn't referencing you at all, just don't want to detract from the heart of the post and start a war on ethics - that belongs in the ethics section
 
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After spending many years in his situation, using psychedelics, not abusing my GF, I want to thank you for being smart enough to recognize the difference between the drugs. Dealing with someone actually addicted to a drug such as opiates or a form of cocaine, or meth, is totally different than some that occasionally uses psychedelics. Dont get me wrong, I'm not promoting any of it because thanks to the Lord, He has given me more than one chance to repent and I am oh so grateful!

That being said, I see this as a couple different things going on. As far as the using psychs "once in a while" usually what happens is either as rarely seen, they continue on that path without anything significantly troubling happens and they go on to live their their lives. Or much more commonly, they move on to the actually addictive things like what I mentioned before. But you seem pretty up on things, so your probably aware of that.

If his heart and soul prefer the stimulation of substances rather than you, or the Lord, their is absolutely nothing you can do. You can try all you want, but ultimately that will just make things worse. I agree with a few others on here, you should probably count your blessings and cut your losses and let him go. If you are in an abusive relationship, you definitely need to call it quits, cause that will destroy you both.

Like I said, I applaud you for your real knowledge on such things and not just making ridiculous claims such as LSD is known to cause violence, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard! Just cause anyone is a Christian, doesn't mean they should spread misinformation, that will not help anyone. I will say a prayer for you! <>< Good Luck!
 
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A beautiful and wise-sounding post. For what it's worth, I don't think he deserves you at all. His obstinacy, despite his acknowledged unhappiness, just compounds his serious flaws. To be called unintelligent by someone so foolish takes the cake.
 
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It seems to me, ricecracker, that your rather angry criticism of Christian7PraiseJesus was unfair, since it was clearly meant to be supportive. Maybe she understands you better than you do yourself.

Yes, perhaps, there was unnecessary guff about the law as it relates to drugs, particularly since it was in reference to the UK. But she expressed concern (without, as you had half-expected people would, deeming you an idiot), but her advice at the beginning and end of her post was sound enough, confirming, as was evidently intended, your own view that you would almost certainly have to get out of the relationship. The impression given by the title of your post, sounded at least as much a lament for a broken romantic relationship as for prayers for your boyfriend, whether or not you intended it.

You went for her for doing so, and preached to her about his being a child of God like everyone else, and expressed contempt for her prayers. Well, maybe you need to be a little more honest with yourself about your own seemingly ambivalent motivation, and your own understanding of the demands of Christian charity.

As regards your concluding question, my late wife died as a result of multiple organ-failure after years of heavy alcoholism earlier in her life. I believed that, as it seemed a psycho-spiritual condition, and she had a perfect temperament, as well as Christian faith and values, she might well be able to get over it. She did, finally, after a long struggle with relapses, relapsing just once after being dry for many years. I told her if she didn't stop straight away, I'd stop taking my tablets. So she stopped.

Now, I'm not saying she's was a better person in this life in God's eyes than your boyfriend, as only He knows the formative experiences of our upbringing and the grace He gives us, and how we respond to them; plus He has different time-scales for our conversion. But what we have all been trying to do, however redundant it may seem to you now, is to tell you that ALL you can do is pray for him, as you indicate you realise - which brings us back to the broken heart in terms of romantic love, and which latter you seem to underestimate. From that viewpoint, C&PJ and everyone else are 'bang on the money'. He's poison for you.
 
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