I have an idea VictorC...

[k4c]

Why don't you share with us what you believe the New Covenant entails?

 

[VictorC]

Why don't you share with us what you believe the New Covenant entails?

A thread just for me? To answer a question that I have already answered at least a dozen times?

Why not accept Scripture's summary of the Gospel?

Galatians 4
1 Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father. 3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
6 And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!” 7 Therefore you are no longer a slave but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

The new covenant promised to Israel and Judah was redemption from the first covenant, and writing God's Spirit of adoption into us. The Gentiles joined in this relationship via the promise to Abraham given 430 years before the covenant from Mount Sinai was given, as explained in chapter 3 of this same epistle. It is the same story of God's redemption from the law that alienated the Gentiles from God during its tenure.

13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”), 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

That's the Gospel in a nutshell: mercy and adoption as God's children, who enjoy the same sovereignty over the created law that the Creator Himself enjoys (Matthew 17:24-26): "Then the sons are free".

 

[k4c]

A thread just for me? To answer a question that I have already answered at least a dozen times?

Why not accept Scripture's summary of the Gospel?

Galatians 4
1 Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father. 3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world. 4 But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, 5 to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
6 And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, “Abba, Father!” 7 Therefore you are no longer a slave but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

The new covenant promised to Israel and Judah was redemption from the first covenant, and writing God's Spirit of adoption into us. The Gentiles joined in this relationship via the promise to Abraham given 430 years before the covenant from Mount Sinai was given, as explained in chapter 3 of this same epistle. It is the same story of God's redemption from the law that alienated the Gentiles from God during its tenure.

13 Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree&#8221, 14 that the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles in Christ Jesus, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

That's the Gospel in a nutshell: mercy and adoption as God's children, who enjoy the same sovereignty over the created law that the Creator Himself enjoys (Matthew 17:24-26): "Then the sons are free".

This is all fine and dandy but you really need to speak the whole truth and not stop half way through.

Freedom from the Law does not mean freedom to break the Law, this is where you lack in your understanding.

We have been redeemed or delivered from the Law through the blood of Christ in that the Law has lost its power to bring about the curse of death through sin.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

What shall we say to the fact that we have been delivered from the Law?

Is the Law sin that we should be delivered from it?

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet.''

You see, the Law points out our sin, which in turn, brings about the curse of death in us.

Romans 7:8-12 But sin, taking opportunity by the commandment, produced in me all manner of evil desire. For apart from the law sin was dead. I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. And the commandment, which was to bring life, I found to bring death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me. Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.

With the Law comes the curse of death because it makes alive our sinfulness. When our sin is done away with, through the blood of Christ, the curse loses it power but this does not mean the Law is no good or done away with.

Romans 7:13 Has then what is good become death to me? Certainly not! But sin, that it might appear sin, was producing death in me through what is good, so that sin through the commandment might become exceedingly sinful.

So here we are born again sons of God, free from the condemning power of the Law.

What now?

Do we now throw out the Law?

Do we now break the Law because we are redeemed from the Law as sons of God?

Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin (break the Law) that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

As born again sons of God we died to the Law's condemning power to bring about the curse even though the Law continues to point out sin. We are dead to sin's dominion through the blood of Christ. But this does not mean we can now disregard or disobey the Law for just as the Law reveals sin, it also reveals righteousness, which is something a son of God hungers for.

Romans 6:11-16 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord. Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in its lusts. And do not present your members as instruments of unrighteousness to sin, but present yourselves to God as being alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness to God. For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one's slaves whom you obey, whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?

So you see, Jesus never came to do away with the Ten Commandments, He came to do away with sin. The Ten Commandments will always point out sin and define godly love and righteousness so that those who are becoming the sons of God and those who are the sons of God can bear God's image as sons.

Remember, keeping the commandments will be a character trait of a son of God because, as the new covenant promises the new birth by the indwelling Spirit of God, God will give us power through His indwelling Spirit to become the son's of God.

John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Here is the new birth of which the power comes to become the sons of God.

Ezekiel 36:26-28 "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. "I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. "Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.

God sets us free from the condemning power of the Law so that we can freely obey His Law through love rather than through fear, guilt and condemnation.

Here is a beautiful picture of how the New Covenant works and how God uses the Sabbath as that picture of being set free.

Exodus 21:1-5 "Now these are the judgments which you shall set before them: "If you buy a Hebrew servant, he shall serve six years; and in the seventh he shall go out free and pay nothing. "If he comes in by himself, he shall go out by himself; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. "If his master has given him a wife, and she has borne him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. "But if the servant plainly says, `I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,' then his master shall bring him unto God, and shall bring him to the door, or unto the door-post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for ever.

Do you love God enough to be set free yet return to serve Him forever?

These are all new covenant truths the sons of God need to understand.

 

[VictorC]

This is all fine and dandy but

The summary of the Gospel appearing in Galatians 4:4-7 is "fine", "BUT" there has to be something added to it? Did you even read the passage?
Probably not, since you continue:

you really need to speak the whole truth and not stop half way through.

Then you should address the passage that was presented and explain why God's adoption isn't the whole truth.

We have been redeemed or delivered from the Law through the blood of Christ in that the Law has lost its power to bring about the curse of death through sin.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

What shall we say to the fact that we have been delivered from the Law?

Perhaps you should accept what the passage says for a change?

Romans 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, "You shall not covet.''

What law have we been delivered from? It is identified by the quote "You shall not covet", and that phrase appears only in the ten commandments (Exodus 20:17 and Deuteronomy 5:21).

You see, the Law points out our sin, which in turn, brings about the curse of death in us.

Exactly.
The law itself is a death sentence.
It is "holy and just and good" and lethal to everyone who is not. The author admits this when he wrote in verse 11 "For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me". This same author makes the same conclusion in 1 Corinthians 15:56: "The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law".

When our sin is done away with, through the blood of Christ, the curse loses it power but this does not mean the Law is no good or done away with.

This is not consistent with Romans 7 explaining the fact that we have been delivered from the law.
Not sin.
We were delivered from the law.

Do we now throw out the Law?

What does Galatians 4:30 instruct you to do? Can I trust you to look up the passage that verse appears in on your own?

Romans 6:1-4 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin (break the Law) that grace may abound?

Why do you find it necessary to add your unBiblical addition to Scripture? You have never been able to distinguish between sin and transgression, and your insertion to Holy Writ illustrates your lack of understanding.

Jesus never came to do away with the Ten Commandments, He came to do away with sin.

You concluded this after quoting from the passage explaining that Jesus Christ delivered us from the ten commandments. You show that you either don't comprehend what you're reading, or have rejected it with full knowledge motivated by a commitment to error.

God sets us free from the condemning power of the Law so that we can freely obey His Law through love rather than through fear, guilt and condemnation.

Scripture to support this contention?
And no, Ezekiel 36 doesn't lend you support, as it mentions God's Spirit causing us to walk in His choq and mishpat, and no reference is made to the torah inscribed on tables of stone, the very "covenant with death" you conceded in an earlier post has been anulled.

Here is a beautiful picture of how the New Covenant works and how God uses the Sabbath as that picture of being set free.

You appear content to stare at a picture, but never accept the reality the picture illustrated. Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it (Hebrews 4:1). This promise was given to those who had the sabbath already, and the previous verse stated "we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief".

This continues to be the case with everyone who labors against God's redemption. I had asked in the title of my previous post why you hate God's Gospel of redemption, and I believe this is a question that deserves an answer from you.

 

[k4c]

The summary of the Gospel appearing in Galatians 4:4-7 is "fine", "BUT" there has to be something added to it? Did you even read the passage?
Probably not, since you continue:

Then you should address the passage that was presented and explain why God's adoption isn't the whole truth.

Perhaps you should accept what the passage says for a change?

What law have we been delivered from? It is identified by the quote "You shall not covet", and that phrase appears only in the ten commandments (Exodus 20:17 and Deuteronomy 5:21).

Exactly.
The law itself is a death sentence.
It is "holy and just and good" and lethal to everyone who is not. The author admits this when he wrote in verse 11 "For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me". This same author makes the same conclusion in 1 Corinthians 15:56: "The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law".

This is not consistent with Romans 7 explaining the fact that we have been delivered from the law.
Not sin.
We were delivered from the law.

What does Galatians 4:30 instruct you to do? Can I trust you to look up the passage that verse appears in on your own?

Why do you find it necessary to add your unBiblical addition to Scripture? You have never been able to distinguish between sin and transgression, and your insertion to Holy Writ illustrates your lack of understanding.

You concluded this after quoting from the passage explaining that Jesus Christ delivered us from the ten commandments. You show that you either don't comprehend what you're reading, or have rejected it with full knowledge motivated by a commitment to error.

Scripture to support this contention?
And no, Ezekiel 36 doesn't lend you support, as it mentions God's Spirit causing us to walk in His choq and mishpat, and no reference is made to the torah inscribed on tables of stone, the very "covenant with death" you conceded in an earlier post has been anulled.

You appear content to stare at a picture, but never accept the reality the picture illustrated. Therefore, since a promise remains of entering His rest, let us fear lest any of you seem to have come short of it (Hebrews 4:1). This promise was given to those who had the sabbath already, and the previous verse stated "we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief".

This continues to be the case with everyone who labors against God's redemption. I had asked in the title of my previous post why you hate God's Gospel of redemption, and I believe this is a question that deserves an answer from you.

We would have to reject just about the whole New Testament in order to receive what you say.

So with this, I'll just make a couple of comments because I see you have no room to receive the whole truth.

First of all, using self made and unscriptural statments such as, "writing God's Spirit of adoption into us" may fool the unlearned but it's not what the Bible says. What the Bible really says is that God will write His Law in us.

Secondly, the covenant of death has to do with the terms of the old covenent, not the content. You can have different terms with the same content. I can rent you an apartment with the terms being that you pay $500 very month. I can change the terms while you still live in the same apartment. This is what we see being said all throughout the new testament and is where you need to do a little more studying.

Covenant: an agreement found in the Bible "between God and His people in which God makes certain promises and requires certain behavior from his people in return.

The Ten Commandments is not what brought the death.

Romans 7:13 Did what is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, working death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure.

It was sin that brought the death. Jesus' death dealt with the sin, not the Ten Commandments

The Ten Commandments do bring life when you allow Jesus to take away the sin.

Romans 7:10 So as far as I was concerned, the good law which was supposed to bring life but resulted instead in my being given the death penalty.

Now when we die through baptism we are no longer under the death penalty. This changes our relationship to the Law. We are now able to live in a newness of life.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This newness of life is not a life without the Law, it's a life without sin's dominion over us.

Dominion: the power of governing and controlling.

Romans 6:14-15 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!

When we're in Christ there is no condemnation for those who walk according to the Spirit.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.

When we walk according to the Spirit we will obey the Law but when we walk according to the flesh we won't.

Romans 8:5-7 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.

Did you notice the comparison in that those who walk according to the flesh are not subject to the Law nor can they be because they are at emnity with God.

Enmity: a feeling of hostility or ill will, as between enemies.

This means that those who walk according to the Spirit are subject to the Law and can be. Why is this? Because they are no longer at enmity with God because God has forgiven them and has placed His Spirit within them and has written His Law in their hearts and minds. Now they can be His people and He their God. This is the foundation of the new covenant.

Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

I know you're probably not receiving a word of this but I had to write it anyway just in case people who want the whole truth are reading what we write.

 

[VictorC]

We would have to reject just about the whole New Testament in order to receive what you say.

You rejected the new covenant as soon as you opined "BUT" in your previous post. You're free to offer a response to refute what I presented, and you're encouraged to return to Galatians 4:4-7 and explain why this Biblical passage is unBiblical. Adding material without responding to what has been presented isn't going to be considered at this juncture.

God has forgiven them and has placed His Spirit within them and has written His Law in their hearts and minds. Now they can be His people and He their God. This is the foundation of the new covenant.

Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

I'm curious to know if you have come any closer to determining what God's "My law" that isn't according to Sinai refers to, since you have acknowledged it isn't a reference to the ten commandments.

 

[RND]

Wow, can you imagine how much freedom and liberty would be in the world if every man, woman and child respected and upheld the Ten Commandments?

 

[k4c]

Wow, can you imagine how much freedom and liberty would be in the world if every man, woman and child respected and upheld the Ten Commandments?

Amen...

Think of what the world would be like if noone stole anymore.

Think of the freedom from fear if noone killed or raped anymore.

Think of all the unity of faith there would be in the world if everyone obeyed the fourth commandment.

This is why God calls His Law the Law of liberty....

 

[VictorC]

Wow, can you imagine how much freedom and liberty would be in the world if every man, woman and child respected and upheld the Ten Commandments?

This goes against Paul's instruction to cast off the bondwoman he defined as the covenant from Mount Sinai in Galatians 4:24-30, and concluded that we're the children of the freewoman in verse 31.

Your rendition of freedom and liberty is a planet full of condemned people unreconciled to God, not far off from communism. Hence God's decision to deliver us from the law identified by the quote "You shall not covet", found only in the ten commandments, that covenant issued from Mount Sinai.

 

[VictorC]

Think of all the unity of faith there would be in the world if everyone obeyed the fourth commandment.

That faith would be Judaism, not Christianity, since your appeal to a "fourth commandment" is an appeal to the first covenant taken away by the Hand of God (Hebrews 10:9).

 

[k4c]

This goes against Paul's instruction to cast off the bondwoman he defined as the covenant from Mount Sinai in Galatians 4:24-30, and concluded that we're the children of the freewoman in verse 31.

Your rendition of freedom and liberty is a planet full of condemned people unreconciled to God, not far off from communism. Hence God's decision to deliver us from the law identified by the quote "You shall not covet", found only in the ten commandments, that covenant issued from Mount Sinai.

Do you even know what the bondwoman is?

Is it the old covenant terms or content?

Well it can't be the content because we clearly see all throughout the new testament and the promise of the new covenant that God will write His Law in our hearts and minds so it must be the terms, which is do or die.

Get rid of the, do or die, and accept the, do through love, and you will experience the new covenant.

Romans 13:8-10 Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "You shall not commit adultery,'' "You shall not murder,'' "You shall not steal,'' "You shall not bear false witness,'' "You shall not covet,'' and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'' Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

In other words, godly love for God and man will manifest itself through keeping the commandments.

See how simple this is.

If you throw the baby out with the bath water you have man interpreting what godly love and righteousness is and we can see what that looks like today in the religious world.

 

[RND]

This goes against Paul's instruction to cast off the bondwoman he defined as the covenant from Mount Sinai in Galatians 4:24-30, and concluded that we're the children of the freewoman in verse 31.

Your rendition of freedom and liberty is a planet full of condemned people unreconciled to God, not far off from communism. Hence God's decision to deliver us from the law identified by the quote "You shall not covet", found only in the ten commandments, that covenant issued from Mount Sinai.

Are you suggesting that if every man, woman, and child in the world paid heed to keeping God Ten Commandments there wouldn't be liberty and freedom in the world?

Surely you jest!

Do/did communist's respect God's Ten Commandments?

 

[VictorC]

Do you even know what the bondwoman is?

Paul didn't leave it open to interpretation, since he defined it as the covenant from Mount Sinai in Galatians 4:24. There was only one such covenant issued from Mount Sinai, and that was the ten commandments, as Moses testified in his summary of events surrounding and including Deuteronomy 4:12-13.

Well it can't be the content because we clearly see all throughout the new testament and the promise of the new covenant that God will write His Law in our hearts and minds so it must be the terms, which is do or die.

I was curious to see if you had made any progress toward determining what God's "My law" that isn't from Mount Sinai refers to. You have not. Hence you reached a false conclusion because you used a false premise.

 

[k4c]

That faith would be Judaism, not Christianity, since your appeal to a "fourth commandment" is an appeal to the first covenant taken away by the Hand of God (Hebrews 10:9).

Let us read together what you have quoted.

Hebrews 10:9 Then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.'' He takes away the first that He may establish the second.

And how does He establish the second?

Does He do away with the Law or does He write it in our hearts and minds?

Oh, if you would only read a little further in your quote.

Hebrews 10:16 "This is the new covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,''

 

[VictorC]

Are you suggesting that if every man, woman, and child in the world paid heed to keeping God Ten Commandments there wouldn't be liberty and freedom in the world?

Surely you jest!

Did God jest when He delivered us from the first covenant?
No, He was deadly serious to the point of pouring out His own Blood as a Lamb without spot or blemish to save sinners. Your mockery of God's redemption is common among Adventists.

 

[VictorC]

Let us read together what you have quoted.

Hebrews 10:9 Then He said, "Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.'' He takes away the first that He may establish the second.

And how does He establish the second?

By taking away the first, which was the covenant from Mount Sinai concluded "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13.

Does He do away with the Law or does He write it in our hearts and minds?

Oh, if you would only read a little further in your quote.

Hebrews 10:16 "This is the new covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,''

He took away the law ordained at Sinai, and specified in Jeremiah 31:32 and Hebrews 8:9 that He would make a new covenant which is not according to the first covenant issued at Sinai. You proved to yourself that the old covenant wasn't a new covenant promise when you admitted that Romans 2:15 refers to the ten commandments - present in the hearts of the Gentiles before the new covenant was given!

 

[k4c]

Paul didn't leave it open to interpretation, since he defined it as the covenant from Mount Sinai in Galatians 4:24. There was only one such covenant issued from Mount Sinai, and that was the ten commandments, as Moses testified in his summary of events surrounding and including Deuteronomy 4:12-13.

I was curious to see if you had made any progress toward determining what God's "My law" that isn't from Mount Sinai refers to. You have not. Hence you reached a false conclusion because you used a false premise.

You really should tell the Apostle Paul that everything from Mt.Sinai is done and gone because he seems to believe the Ten Commandments are still alive and well if not why quote the fifth commandment word for word, including its promise for obeying it.

Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. "Honor your father and mother,'' which is the first commandment with promise: "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.''

Exodus 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Very Important: The fact that he reminds us of the promise attached to the fifth commandments is proof that he is pointing us back to the Ten Commandments when he quotes it.

 

[k4c]

By taking away the first, which was the covenant from Mount Sinai concluded "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13.

He took away the law ordained at Sinai, and specified in Jeremiah 31:32 and Hebrews 8:9 that He would make a new covenant which is not according to the first covenant issued at Sinai. You proved to yourself that the old covenant wasn't a new covenant promise when you admitted that Romans 2:15 refers to the ten commandments - present in the hearts of the Gentiles before the new covenant was given!

I admitted the truth that God's Law is eternal. It reveals God's unchanging character of which we were created in. So since we were created in God's image it only goes to say that we should obey His Law, since it reveals His character and nature. But since we are dead to God we have fallen from which we were created, even though, by created nature, we still do things contained within the Law.

Remember, it's the carnal mind that is at enmity with God and won't keep His commandments. But those of us who are of the Spirit know better.

 

[VictorC]

You really should tell the Apostle Paul that everything from Mt.Sinai is done and gone because he seems to believe the Ten Commandments are still alive and well

Nothing in response to the testimony of Scripture, other than a red herring?
You can take up your complaint with Paul, who clearly explained in a number of passages how God delivered us from the ten commandments and called it abolished.

 

[RND]

Did God jest when He delivered us from the first covenant?

Nope. He wrote His laws on our hearts so we wouldn't be compelled to sacrifice sheep.

No, He was deadly serious to the point of pouring out His own Blood as a Lamb without spot or blemish to save sinners. Your mockery of God's redemption is common among Adventists.

Obvious proof then that the Ten Commandments still stand in that Christ died because of them! If the law could have been so easily removed then Christ need not have died.