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Rescued One

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Back in the sixties I was talking to a young man who was very intelligent, but he talked over everyone's head (usually about physics). I don't understand physics, but instead of brushing him off I listened. Others asked me if he was my brother. They always ignored him. People knew next to nothing about autism then. I didn't, but I don't ignore people who are being ignored. In the seventies I provided childcare for an autistic toddler. I was a little sad when his parents moved away. They didn't know he was autistic.
 
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Lexington Freedom Support Group doesn't let anyone know what the group is about. It sounds patriotic. I don't like to use the word cult either. But one has to define what they are being freed from. "Freedom from Spiritual Abuse?" Would that work or "Christian Freedom from Spiritual Abuse?"
 
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I agree and heydove will do whatever she is led to do. My "example" wasn't meant to be any end all... instead, just an example. Something containing "spiritual abuse" might work, I just think that the word 'cult' can polarize and since this is already a situation where some folks have been polarized, why add to it, right? SAS instead of SOS? Just throwing ideas out if not to use, then to perhaps to inspire a better answer.
 
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When things appear to be going badly a thought of blaming / hating God will sometimes come across our minds - this is certainly an interjection of our adversary, who seeks to prevent us from attaining that which he's lost.

If we know better, we promptly reject those kind of thoughts...if we don't and allow them to churn around in our head, they will definitely make our life much worse in many ways.

Been through that...

On the other hand - loving God and thanking God for the good we can and do experience will make our life much better in many ways.

Thus the pivot upon which turns the great divide - do we hate / blame or love / thank God ?
 
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I've been there before, and it was a poor decision on my part. God didn't sin against me, so who am I to hate him. And on top of that, he gave me new life! I owe him everything. This isn't to say that I don't express my exasperation with certain things to him, or how I don't understand why he didn't stop a bad thing or why he withheld a good thing. But hating God, when we take a fuller view of who he is, makes no sense. If he exists and is as bad as some people say he is, that doesn't change anything, so hating him is at best fruitless and at worst, dangerous. If he exists and isn't bad enough to hate, then hating him is completely and utterly needless. And his conduct has no bearing on whether or not he exists. We must accept him and that he is who he is, and will do what he wills. And we must accept whatever role he has for us. Given the order of things, this is all we can do.
 
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I honestly can't imagine my life without God. God has truly been my Savior, my Redeemer in everything. Through the pain and grief that I have endured within this year alone has been at times unbearable, but it has truly drew me closer to God like nothing before. I have learned to cling to him, to depend on Him and He has brought me so much peace despite what I have been through. I realized when I completely surrender to God and cast my cares on Him, I can hear His voice and I can think with a sound mind. I have learned so many lessons through this trying time because I'm not filling my mind up with junk. When I find myself going off to the left or focused on the negative, I literally draw closer to Him because He truly is my refuge and it took for me to have the year that I have to see it.

I'm definitely not saying it's easy because it's not...I have had some sleepless nights, anxiety attacks and panic attacks like never before...but even those I am learning to give it to God even at those moments. Again, it's not easy, but it does take discipline, determination and will power to push through despite your circumstances. I'm praying for you love because grief without hope is truly unbearable, but grief with hope gives you the strength to fight for your freedom. This is what I am learning!!!
 
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well hey,

To your extend of experience I’ve never had, but I know someone who did. Let’s try to understand more about who we are and try to know where such the thing come from and what we will do to still receive the salvation by our Lord Jesus than falling in Mathew 12:31.

1Tes 5:23 says a human is consisting of spirit, soul and body. Salvation is about souls, “As the outcome of your faith you obtain the salvation of your souls (1Peter 1:9)”. Body (flesh) gives burden to the soul, “Beloved, I beseech you as aliens and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh that wage war against your soul (1Peter 2:11).” And, “It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life (John 6:63).”

This is my understanding: The body shows out the products of the three (spirit, soul, and body (mind)). How does it work? Physically, many parts of the body have autoGeneratedAct (independent), however, mind is the driver of the body. Soul drives the body through the nerves through the mind (Newton, 2006, Destiny of Souls). Spirit (or spirits (Luke 4:33-36)) drive the body through the soul through the nerves through the mind (no referrence); the spirit (s) may also drive the body “When the demon had thrown him down before them ... (Luke 4:35)”.

We often hear about evil spirit, good spirit, and Holy Spirit. My understanding: The evil spirit(s) has(have) purposes to reign over the soul and to drive the soul’s lower-self; it gives pleasure but lack of happiness; it drives the soul to be away from Jesus Christ, to be away from salvation. The good spirit(s) has(have) purposes to encourage and uplift the soul’s higher-self. The Holy Spirit has purpose to open the soul to know all the truth (John 16:12-14) leading to salvation by believing in Jesus Christ (1Cor 12:3) and through Him as the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6) the soul will know the only true God and subject to come to eternal life (John 17:3).

As with your frustration about (hate) God, for sure it come from the evil spirit(s). The question is, when did it be part of you? It is not an easy answer. One possibility is one had experienced a traumatic event, either one did a very bad thing that one don’t believe God forgives, or, someone did a very bad thing to him or her. One other possibility is (even the teaching of the Church rejects, but Jesus confirmed in Mat 11:14-15) it came along with one’s soul since before his or her birth, it has been there with the soul in the soul’s past life. Other things are still open to explore.

Is there any consolation? Yes. You have to have a strong believe that you do not do that!!! Why I said so? 1John 3:19-21, “And by this we will know that we are from the truth and will reassure our hearts before him whenever our hearts condemn us; for God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. Beloved, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have boldness before God;”

Since you believe in Jesus Christ, I believe you will not hate God (Him). Anyway, the evil spirit(s) might have tempted you from the inside as such that at times you believe you hate God. It is something like a paranoid or a schizophrenia. We just need to never be doubted that “God is greater than our hearts”, 1John 3:19-21 is of help, also John 18:25-27 is of help.

God bless you.
 
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Hating God and Christianity do not and can not go hand and hand. Being angry with God because we dont understand why a situation happened is another thing. People are fallen and sometimes the actions of other fallen individuals can effect us in our personal space. It is how we deal with those situations that truly test our faith. I think that a support group is an amazing idea. When something like this happens it either breaks us or makes us stronger. Had your situation happened to a weaker willed individual it could have broken their faith. As it happened to you and your first idea is to find a way to share your situation to help others I would say you are rightfully angry but what justice would it be for you to become the very tool God uses to minister to people effected by wolfs like you were
 
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What you need is enlightenment, you need to pay attention to your surroundings, and think of the positive instead of the negative; I too had negative thoughts about our world at one time. Today; listen to my story. I once found myself in a desert, like the Death Valley flats, kinda, I met a stranger there, all I remember about him was this black, cowboy style, leather hat. Today 20 years later, I know who he is now.

I also know how I got there; I never thought I would find closure to this passion, all it took was an empty spider web and an opportunity.

Today; I look into the positive times in my life, and I see how far it got me.

All it took was three words to turn my life around.

I was told I was going to find a woman last month, I'm still alone, yet I still have faith in God, because he just gave me every reason in the world to trust him...
 
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For me I had to decide if the ends justify the means. We go though some difficult things in life but God's rock solid promise to us is that He will cause good to come out of everything that happens to us. We need the mind of Christ and the Divine thoughts of God to understand His plan and purpose for us and our lives.
 
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