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I got serious problems with my relation

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Currently I'm living with my fiance and our 2 year old son. I am christian, and she does not care about anything that got to do with religion. My problem is that as a christian i feel that it is wrong to live like a married couple without being married, and I'm also really unsure if the marriage will last if we do get married. I got divorced parents myself, and i know how much troubles that causes. She only sleeps on the couch, and the only times we share bed is to have sex. We got absolutly no shared interests, she hates what i like and i hate what she likes. We got totally different personalities, but still the funny thing is that we usually get along pretty good and rarely argue at all. I guess we got a friendship based on that both of us have been trough a lot of bad things i in life, so we feel safe with each others. She does her stuff and i do my stuff (usually me at the computer and she in front of the tv). But I feel miserable about it anyway, I don't want to live in a way i feel is wrong, and I don't want a marriage i feel would not last, but leaving her and my son just because i got a selfish need to be a good christian is wrong, and staying in a relationship that feels wrong is going to destroy us both. I can't see any way in just stopping to have sex with her without hurting her feelings anyway either.

So i got no clue.
 

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First let me clear up this: Being a christian is not a selfish need. PERIOD. Without Christ in your life you are a lost soul. No woman can save you or bring you true happiness without Christ.
I really feel you have answered your own questions. This is not a healthy relationship. Don't let the fear of hurting your girlfriend cause you to continue a relationship that will only end in a worse disaster later on. You have a child together so I encourage you to try to always be on good terms with one another and always be a good father but you already know in your heart this is all wrong. Get out now and someday you will meet someone who God has chosen for you.
 
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Thanks for answering, but still i would like more people to give their view on this matter.

and someday you will meet someone who God has chosen for you.
Why would i be with her, if not for Gud choose her for me? Does not the bible tell that those God have put togehter, no man shall seperate? This is also something i got on my mind.

And another issue i have is something from the old testament, where it says if someone have sex, they should get married. Even if i have issues, would it not be wrong to turn away and hurt someone that i gave myself to? Should i not live with whatever consequences my actions got? I can't see why my emotions should matter more then right and wrong.

And even if i find someone that got the same interests as me, a pretty, perfect, christian girl, still i got no guarantee the marriage will be good. Maybe then i will think what i have now is better.
 
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Hi Timeo,

I'm hearing a lot of things that sound like it would be hard for this to work out - you don't seem to have a lot of intimacy (you don't sleep together when you aren't having sex, you don't hang out together or do things together), your lives don't seem to be pulling in the same direction (you are Christian, she is not, you have no shared interests, you like and hate completely different things), and your instinct is that a marriage would not last. Did I get that right? When you say "I feel miserable about it", are these the things you feel miserable about?

How are you at giving and receiving caring with each other? You say you get along well and rarely argue - does that mean you spend time together and enjoy it, or that you rarely argue because there is little connection? What is your relationship like when you are getting along well? How are you two as parents to your son?

If you weren't a Christian, would the relationship still feel wrong? If you weren't having sex, how much of a relationship would still be there?

Jonathan
 
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I'm hearing a lot of things that sound like it would be hard for this to work out - you don't seem to have a lot of intimacy (you don't sleep together when you aren't having sex, you don't hang out together or do things together), your lives don't seem to be pulling in the same direction (you are Christian, she is not, you have no shared interests, you like and hate completely different things), and your instinct is that a marriage would not last. Did I get that right? When you say "I feel miserable about it", are these the things you feel miserable about?
You got it right about my insticts yes. And yes those things are the major reason for me feeling miserable. It feels like a dead-end and I'm starting to think that maybe i wanted her just because i wanted to have sex with her, not because she is a person like me. But some of the problem is also that i like her personality, she got things that i lack. She got her feet on the ground and that makes me feeling the same. I did a lot of drugs before i met her, so I am afraid when if i will get back to being alone again i will start with the drugs again, cause then i dont have the same responibility.

So I'm not sure what to do, if i should ask for prayer to help the relationship or if i should just do what i feel like. I'm not the kind of guy to end a relationship unless its 100% clear that it will never work out.

How are you at giving and receiving caring with each other? You say you get along well and rarely argue - does that mean you spend time together and enjoy it, or that you rarely argue because there is little connection? What is your relationship like when you are getting along well? How are you two as parents to your son?
We do hug and kiss sometimes and some days the relationship feels good, but it seems those days are getting more rare now. I think the lack of arguments is mostly because we leave each other alone. When we do argue it is mostly about the housework. I make all the food, do all the shopping, take out the garbage, do almost all the cleaning and she washes the clothes and take the kid to kindengarten when she go to work in the mornings. So basically the cleaning is the biggest arguments. But I dont think any of us are really happy. She used to seem like a more healthy girl before we got togheter, now all she does when she get home from work is to watch soap-operas and eat snacks. She used to be really thin, but not shes getting really over-weight. I think both of us are pretty weary from our child. He has had problems with eating since he got born. First he refused to drink milk from her, cause he got born pretty dramatically and spent some days apart from her, then he got allergic to the normal milk-supstitutes from the stores, and got under-weight and weak, and when he started eating normal food he almost didnt want anything. We been to lots of doctors, but they havent figured out anything. And I have been thinking maybe he is depressed or something, because I am. I'm using medication to keep my mind stable and i got lots of anxety. I think my girlfriend got lots of problems from the past too, she told she got bullied in school, but never told anything more about it and never want to talk about her emotions. So i feel i cant reach her, and even if i want to sort things out i only meet a wall.

If you weren't a Christian, would the relationship still feel wrong? If you weren't having sex, how much of a relationship would still be there?
As i said in the first post, me beeing a christian is not something is feel it is right for me to use in this descition, it might be right when you think theology, but its not morally right. And yes, i guess the relationship would be better if I were a non-beliver. We would probably get along better, like it is now it feels like shes afraid of christianity and i cant really speak about it, cause she just thinks its stupid.

Without the sex we would be like room-mates that sometime gave each other a hug. And i guess we would get along better that way, cause then at least we could do what we wanted and live more free.

But anyway, sorry for the long post, if you had a relationship like this what would you do?
 
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But anyway, sorry for the long post, if you had a relationship like this what would you do?

I think I'd probably work to change this to the relationship you describe below:

Without the sex we would be like room-mates that sometime gave each other a hug. And i guess we would get along better that way, cause then at least we could do what we wanted and live more free.

But in addition to this, you would still be co-parents, that child means you will aways be co-parents as well. But nothing you've described so far says to me that you two should be considered married, and nothing you've described so far sounds like there's a lot to build a good marriage out of.

I say this assuming you will do your own discernment, ignoring those things I say that don't fit your situation, and holding on to anything that happens to be useful.

Blessings to all three of you,

Jonathan
 
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The bible says that if your eye causes you to sin cut it out. If a person causes you to sin cut them out of your life. The bible says that we are the body of christ and do not join the body of christ with a prostitute (not saying she is a prostitute of course, but you get the idea)

Marriage is forever it is the joining of flesh that with not be seperated. Divorce is for the weak, and also once you are divorce (which is only allowable for the reason of adultry) you are not allowed to re-marry. Dont make a bad decision with this, Your God comes first.
 
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Does not the bible tell that those God have put togehter, no man shall seperate? This is also something i got on my mind.

And another issue i have is something from the old testament, where it says if someone have sex, they should get married.


The bible also says not to be unequally yoked, ie: do not marry an unbeliever

You are a christian, that means that you are ONE with Jesus, He lives in you by His holy spirit, your first and most important goal in life is to seek and know Him more and become more like Him - you cannot separate that from any decision you make about your life.

Should you have slept with her inthe first place? no of course not, should you marry her now? I think you know the answer to that is a resounding NO. We live under grace, the new covenant, not by the laws of the Old Testament, there is nothing which says you have to marry her, and much that suggests you should not.

You need to find yourself a good church with good teaching and seek God, move out of the house, continue to be the best Father you know how to be and work on knowing Him and yourself better... pray for your fiancee and son whilst you are living apart, for your future as a family, If it is God's will you marry she will get saved and your relationship will blossom and grow into what it should be.

Marrying her or continuing in this relationship as it stands is not moral it is legalism and looks doomed from the outset.
 
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