I feel like gods sexist. I mean what is that verse a man is head of the wife? and people say thats not sexist!?!?
Gods not as loving as people say
Gods not as loving as people say
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it is suppose to be a JOY 
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man is commanded to be 'as Christ is to the church'... Christ is our Savior. man is suppose to meet all our needs and take care of us. we the church are a spotless bride. hubby is suppose to cherish and nurish and care for his bride.
notice this chapter about love...
Ephesians 5
Walk in Love
1 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. 2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.
Walk in Light
8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spiritis in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. 13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says:
Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.
Walk in Wisdom
15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.
MarriageChrist and the Church
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
...man is commanded to be 'as Christ is to the church'... Christ is our Savior. man is suppose to meet all our needs and take care of us. we the church are a spotless bride. hubby is suppose to cherish and nurish and care for his bride.
notice this chapter about love...
Ephesians 5
Walk in Love
1 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. 2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.
3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.
Walk in Light
8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spiritis in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. 13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says:
Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.
Walk in Wisdom
15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.
MarriageChrist and the Church
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
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Great post GV.
I also would like to point out that it takes courage to submit to your husband. it is denying yourself and your needs, desires for ytour husbands. Husbands are called to do them same. otherwise the relationship (as with ALL relationships) will NOT last. To love someone is to deny yourself for them and sacrifice for them. Tio love someone means to be concerned about THEIR welfare before your own. That's why we need to love God first and foremost or we will NEVER be able to learn how to love in this way (1 Corinthians 13:4-7).
Being a submissive wife is honourable. The bible is not against women in any way shape or form. Anyone who tells you that and feeds you the common arguement that Eve sinned first is clearly misunderstood. Sure Eve sinned first but Adam was tricked by his own wife and then blamed God saying if God had not brought him this woman he would not have sinned. Also, all of Jesus's male disciples were not present at his crucifixion were they? But guess who was.
What I am saying is you cannot be rebellious and serve God. You cannot be a Christian and then pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to follow. That is being disobedient and proud. God does not answer the prayers of the proud but delights in the humble.
(I Peter 3:1) Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
The wife can help the husband by being submissive.
And then...
(I Peter 5:5) Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. yea, all of you be subject to one another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
God will not hear the proud.
There is no sense in entering a relationship unless you are prepared to crucify yourself for others.
Also, it is a very proud thing to do to challenge people to convince you. This is tempting. Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God (Matthew 4:7). Whatever revelation you recieve will be by asking God in faith and it will come from God and God only. None of us can convince you.
I also would like to point out that it takes courage to submit to your husband. it is denying yourself and your needs, desires for ytour husbands. Husbands are called to do them same. otherwise the relationship (as with ALL relationships) will NOT last. To love someone is to deny yourself for them and sacrifice for them. Tio love someone means to be concerned about THEIR welfare before your own. That's why we need to love God first and foremost or we will NEVER be able to learn how to love in this way (1 Corinthians 13:4-7).
Being a submissive wife is honourable. The bible is not against women in any way shape or form. Anyone who tells you that and feeds you the common arguement that Eve sinned first is clearly misunderstood. Sure Eve sinned first but Adam was tricked by his own wife and then blamed God saying if God had not brought him this woman he would not have sinned. Also, all of Jesus's male disciples were not present at his crucifixion were they? But guess who was.
What I am saying is you cannot be rebellious and serve God. You cannot be a Christian and then pick and choose which parts of the bible you want to follow. That is being disobedient and proud. God does not answer the prayers of the proud but delights in the humble.
(I Peter 3:1) Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
The wife can help the husband by being submissive.
And then...
(I Peter 5:5) Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. yea, all of you be subject to one another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
God will not hear the proud.
There is no sense in entering a relationship unless you are prepared to crucify yourself for others.
Also, it is a very proud thing to do to challenge people to convince you. This is tempting. Thou shall not tempt the Lord thy God (Matthew 4:7). Whatever revelation you recieve will be by asking God in faith and it will come from God and God only. None of us can convince you.
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ILoveLadyBug said:
It's understandable. There are a lot of misinterpretations about the bible and how it relates to women. When you realize the bigger picture you'll know the truth.
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The more I learned about the bible, the more feminist I became.
Often we like to see what we want to see, which for men is seeing that we're supposed to own everything and control it.
Nonsense.
God isn't sexist. We are.
Often we like to see what we want to see, which for men is seeing that we're supposed to own everything and control it.
Nonsense.
God isn't sexist. We are.
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Love Means Sacrifice, Not Selfishness
No matter how long you may live, you'll never stop learning. Every minute of every day brings us new opportunities to learn something we've never known before. As long as we're open to receive, God will continue to teach us every day.
I'm still learning, and I know I always will be. What God teaches me every day about love continues to change my life. I have come to the place in my life where I can honestly say, "Lord, eliminate everything in my life that is holding me back. Please, Lord, take away anything that is keeping me from walking in love and finding true fulfillment in my life." In other words, "Lord, reduce me to love (bring me to a state or condition of walking in love completely)!"
One of the most important facets I've learned about love is unselfishness, which is characterized in the Bible as the willingness to sacrifice one's own wishes for those of others. I've learned that true love will always adapt and adjust to the needs and desires of other people.
It's impossible for people who have truly been reduced to love to be selfish. God has taught them how to be totally adaptable and adjustable to others. Selfish people, on the other hand, have hard hearts. It's very difficult for selfish people to learn anythingespecially if it involves self-sacrifice. They expect everyone else to adjust to them and their needs. They simply don't know how to adjust to others without becoming angry or upset.
Learning to adapt and adjust myself to the needs and desires of others was very difficult for me. To be honest, I just wanted my way, and I got upset when I didn't get it. I was selfish! I wanted what I wanted, when I wanted it! I couldn't stand having to wait on someone else, or bending my own wishes to accommodate someone else's timetable.
But God began to soften my heart, and gradually, I learned to see the needs of others. Then God gave me compassionthe heartfelt desire to meet the needs of others first, before my own.
Slowly, I became committed to walking in love. I learned to adapt my own needs and desires in order to help meet the needs of others. I learned how to show love in different ways to different people. Did you know that not all people need the same thing from us? One of our children, for example, may need more of our personal time than the others. One of our friends may need more encouragement on a regular basis than another.
For example, my aunt needs me, my parents need me, my brother needs me, my husband needs me, each of my four children needs me, my five grandchildren need me, my employees need me, my friends need meand they all need me in different ways.
Do I ever feel too needed? Of course! All of us feel overwhelmed from time to time. But I remind myself that God gives me grace for whatever He places in my life, and I'm fortunate to be loved and needed by so many.
Do I ever get weary of always trying to be available to meet the needs of others? Yes! But I remind myself of all the years I lived in selfishness and how unhappy I was. Now I'm just making up for lost time! When I consider this, it doesn't take long for me to adjust my attitude. After all, just telling people "I love you" is not enough. We need to go beyond the words and actually do something to help meet their needs.
never saw what he didonly what he didn't do...and it was ruining our relationship. I'm glad now that I have learned to adapt and adjust. It was a little hard on me for a while, but it saved our marriage.
Once you've been reduced to love, you'll have no trouble establishing and maintaining good, healthy relationships with others. Your primary goal in life will be to put the wishes of others before your own. You will learn that true love is all about sacrifice. Selfishness will be a thing of the past.
No matter how long you may live, you'll never stop learning. Every minute of every day brings us new opportunities to learn something we've never known before. As long as we're open to receive, God will continue to teach us every day.
I'm still learning, and I know I always will be. What God teaches me every day about love continues to change my life. I have come to the place in my life where I can honestly say, "Lord, eliminate everything in my life that is holding me back. Please, Lord, take away anything that is keeping me from walking in love and finding true fulfillment in my life." In other words, "Lord, reduce me to love (bring me to a state or condition of walking in love completely)!"
One of the most important facets I've learned about love is unselfishness, which is characterized in the Bible as the willingness to sacrifice one's own wishes for those of others. I've learned that true love will always adapt and adjust to the needs and desires of other people.
It's impossible for people who have truly been reduced to love to be selfish. God has taught them how to be totally adaptable and adjustable to others. Selfish people, on the other hand, have hard hearts. It's very difficult for selfish people to learn anythingespecially if it involves self-sacrifice. They expect everyone else to adjust to them and their needs. They simply don't know how to adjust to others without becoming angry or upset.
Learning to adapt and adjust myself to the needs and desires of others was very difficult for me. To be honest, I just wanted my way, and I got upset when I didn't get it. I was selfish! I wanted what I wanted, when I wanted it! I couldn't stand having to wait on someone else, or bending my own wishes to accommodate someone else's timetable.
But God began to soften my heart, and gradually, I learned to see the needs of others. Then God gave me compassionthe heartfelt desire to meet the needs of others first, before my own.
Slowly, I became committed to walking in love. I learned to adapt my own needs and desires in order to help meet the needs of others. I learned how to show love in different ways to different people. Did you know that not all people need the same thing from us? One of our children, for example, may need more of our personal time than the others. One of our friends may need more encouragement on a regular basis than another.
For example, my aunt needs me, my parents need me, my brother needs me, my husband needs me, each of my four children needs me, my five grandchildren need me, my employees need me, my friends need meand they all need me in different ways.
Do I ever feel too needed? Of course! All of us feel overwhelmed from time to time. But I remind myself that God gives me grace for whatever He places in my life, and I'm fortunate to be loved and needed by so many.
Do I ever get weary of always trying to be available to meet the needs of others? Yes! But I remind myself of all the years I lived in selfishness and how unhappy I was. Now I'm just making up for lost time! When I consider this, it doesn't take long for me to adjust my attitude. After all, just telling people "I love you" is not enough. We need to go beyond the words and actually do something to help meet their needs.
never saw what he didonly what he didn't do...and it was ruining our relationship. I'm glad now that I have learned to adapt and adjust. It was a little hard on me for a while, but it saved our marriage.
Once you've been reduced to love, you'll have no trouble establishing and maintaining good, healthy relationships with others. Your primary goal in life will be to put the wishes of others before your own. You will learn that true love is all about sacrifice. Selfishness will be a thing of the past.
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ILoveLadyBug said:
God is love, as loving and more, as many people say here, its where it all started. God is love.
God does not hate you rather, He loves you with an everlasting love
and its real tangible love! You are not wasting your time trying to have a relationship with Him, its really good you're being honest about this stuff.
He also says 'You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you, declares the Lord, and will bring you back from captivity." Jer 29:13-14
God created you to know His love don't let anyone tell you otherwise, you are so precious to Him.
" If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him." John 7:37-38
Dear Lord God, I pray for Iloveladybug, please meet her with your love, those places in her that are crying out for you Lord, please pour your love into those places that she may know your love in a very real way. Father its your love that sustains us and strengthens us in the midst of our circumstances and i pray this for her, in Jesus precious name.
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