I don't think it's possible for me to not be a Jew. But Christ, I see, is our Lord and Savior

[Parogar]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

 

[Parogar]

I've never said this in public, I've only thought it.

Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. IT feels good to say it. I've never had the courage to really type it out this way since all my friends are atheists and will make fun of me for it.

But I want to tell people because it's true.

 

[graceandpeace]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

This is a tough question.

If you accept Christ, that makes you - religiously speaking - a Christian, rather than a Jew.

This doesn't mean you must reject your family heritage as a Jewish person, but again - religiously speaking - your view on Jesus is the Christian position, not the Jewish one.

My advice would be to speak with your rabbi about your new found beliefs or on how you might proceed. It might be good to hear their views before fully committing to another religion.

Or, if you don't wish to do that, or if you feel very certain that Jesus is the way, you could alternately speak with a Christian priest/minister about your beliefs & make an inquiry into a newcomer's class or Christian education. Do you have any experience with church denominations? Have you spent any time reading Christian history?

Let me know if I can be of any help.

 

[ViaCrucis]

You don't have to deny your Jewish heritage to be a Christian. The same reason why I can embrace my Irish and German heritage. There is Jew and Gentile, Scythian, Barbarian; all are one in Christ.

One doesn't need to subscribe to "Messianic Judaism" to be a Jewish Christian, there have been Jewish Christians for as long as there have been Christians.

It sounds to me like the step to take now is to talk to a pastor/priest and continue your conversion as a catechumen on the path to receive Holy Baptism. Have you been in dialogue with any clergy?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Serving Zion]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew.

This is a topic that I am interested to pick your brains about. I have been raised Christian and find the scriptures describe the ways that God is fulfilling His promise to Abraham and sanctifying His perfect name through the work that Jesus has done.

If you would like to help me to understand more about your faith as a Jew, I don't really understand why you see Christianity and Judaism as Diametrically Opposed. Christianity as I understand, is intended to be the fulfillment of Judaism according to God's desire, for which Jesus was approved by God.

Jesus refers to His disciples as friends, brothers and sisters, telling us that we would achieve greater things than He. John 1 states that even though His own people did not receive Him, to all who do receive Him, He gives the right to be called children of God. This clearly shows that a disciple of Jesus will continue His work. That is of course, a Judaic pursuit: righteous, holy service to God as His sanctified people, while God establishes His dominion on earth to redeem it from the devastation of sin.

The question this raises that I am already interested in, is why does your view of Judaism seem to not be consistent with your view of Christianity? You can teach me something that I can use

Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

Isaiah 28:5, Amos 9:14-15, Ezekiel 20, Jeremiah 50:4-7, Hosea 11:10-11.

Your heart certainly seems suitable for the Christian discipline. Keep in mind Jeremiah 31:29-34 too.

 

[Steve Petersen]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

IMO, a Jew has a covenantal obligation to the Torah, whether or not he is a follower of Jesus. The church, however, will try to steer you away from any kind of Torah observance because in their theology, it has been abolished and replaced.

Also, traditional Christian doctrine holds that there are no longer distinctions in the church between Jews and Gentile, in effect erasing your Jewish heritage. If all Jews accepted this notion and toed the Christian doctrinal line, Jews would be assimilated and disappear. This is what Israel's enemies have been trying to do forever. Don't fall for it.

 

[Shimshon]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

I was a lot like you when I was growing up. You don't have to forsake Judaism just because you believe in our Messiah. I understand the difficulties of being within the Jewish community. There are huge communities of people Messianic Jews who can help you. Umjc mjaa the latter of which I think you would appreciate more. MessianicJudaism.Net you do not have to convert into a church because you're Jewish. You can remain Jewish and have faith in Messiah. However most Jews in your position do usually gravitate towards the Hebrew Christian mindset initially. But be forewarned there's a reason Messianic Judaism exists outside of the church. Either way I'm excited and proud that another one of my people has come to faith in the Messiah Yeshua.

 

[singpeace]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

Jews that come to believe in Christ and call Him their Lord and Savior, the Son of God which died for the sins of the world and rose from the dead and ascended unto Heaven. . . . . . ., usually call themselves Messianic Jews, which means, Jews who believe in Christ.

 

[Soyeong]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

Hello,

For the roughly the first 7-15 years after Messiah's ascension up until the inclusion of Gentiles in Acts 10, all Christians were Torah observant Jews, so there is absolutely no need to give up being a Jew in order to follow Messiah. Jesus did not come to start a new religion, but rather he was born a Jew, raised a Jew, become a Jewish rabbi, had Jewish disciples, is the Jewish Messiah, is the fulfillment of Jewish prophecies, will return the as the Lion of Judah, and came to bring fullness to Judaism. So at its origin, Christianity was the fullest form of Judaism, but it sadly later became distinct with Judaism following the Torah, but not the Messiah, and Christianity following Messiah, but not the Torah, both left with an incomplete religion that had only half the truth.

 

[HeraldOfTheHolyOne]

Many of the apostles did not cease to identify themselves as Jewish, while as yet they recognized that Jesus Christ is Savior & Lord (cf. Romans 9:3). Furthermore, we who have believed in Jesus Christ are brought into the true Israel and are made Abraham's spiritual offspring, whether Jew or Gentile (Galatians 3). What it is to be a Jew is more than a cultural/ethnic thing (although understand, God intends to save a people for Himself from every tribe, tongue, and nation including Jewish people; cf. Romans 2:28; Psalm 2:8). Converting to Christ does not mean you need to throw away your cultural identity as a Jew. But you do receive a new identity - you're a Christian, in Christ, clothed with His righteousness, and given His Holy Spirit, set apart, redeemed, and adopted (cf. Ephesians 2:1-10). When I converted to Christ, I did not cease being an Irish-American, but I did become part of the family of God.

I encourage you, come to Jesus Christ in faith, no matter the cost (and it will cost you dearly). Believe and trust in Him for your salvation, and you will never be turned away from Him. If you confess & repent of your sins and look to Jesus & His finished work on the cross in faith, trusting in Him for your salvation, your sins will be forgiven and He will give you His Spirit.

 

[Sketcher]

The Apostles still identified as Jews after the Christian faith began. You won't not be a Jew.

 

[דוד חֵן (David)]

God made a covenant with Abraham to give the descendent of him a promised land, the land of Israel. The Jews are the apples in God's eye. There's nothing to be ashamed about of being a Jew.

You were a sinful man, we are all sinful still. You persecuted Christians and you trolled them on forums. The Lord knows your heart like He knows mine, we are all called to repentance, and you heard the call, and you repented. God uses all of us according to His purpose. Paul persecuted Christians and yet he repented and God forgives him because Paul has a heart after God.
"You are saved by Grace, through faith. Real faith is shown by obedience to God's words."

We have been given a new life by the power of the Holy Spirit of God. Jesus died and rose in order to forgive us and cleanse us of sin. (Romans 6:1-14)

God forgives on the condition that we forgive others. If we refuse to forgive, then God will refuse our entrance to heaven. (Matthew 6:14-15; 18:23-35)

 

[דוד חֵן (David)]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

Gentiles who are Christians are actually considered spiritually as a Jew. Because the gentiles are grafted in the branch. A physical Jew might have something to do with genetics and genealogy, but what benefits is it if you are cut off from God's covenant? You were cut off from the Old Covenant because to be a real Jew you would have to follow the law (Torah) and you never did. You were cut off from the New Covenant God made with the physical Jews because You didn't believe in the Messiah. A Jew is no longer a Jew when you are cut off from Israel.

The New Covenant was made with Israel, not with gentiles. (In Jeremiah, it says the New Covenant was made with the House of Israel and the House of Judah) Gentiles are added to Israel and the unbelieving Jews are cut off. You were never a Jew until you believed the Messiah.

 

[דוד חֵן (David)]

I've never said this in public, I've only thought it.

Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. IT feels good to say it. I've never had the courage to really type it out this way since all my friends are atheists and will make fun of me for it.

But I want to tell people because it's true.

In the last days, the literal Jews will be saved. You're probably one of them. I'll just want to explain to you about Yeshua. Scripture says He is the Word of God. In John 1:1, it says, "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word is God." If you studied the greek scripture, you'll notice "Word" was translated from the greek word, "Logos." Which is actually a popular Greek and Hebrew philosophy at the time. The Apostle Yohanan used this philosophy to explain the relation of Yeshua with YHWH. It meant to say that, Yeshua was the manifestation of YHWH'S most Holy and Transcendent Spirit and thoughts into actual substance, into flesh that dwelled among us, in whom the generations interacted with. Similar to how YHWH manifested Himself as a human when He visited Abraham after his circumcision. Or the time when Jacob wrestled with God.

Yeshua is called the Son of God because He is literally conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of a virgin. He called the Father "greater than I" because Yeshua manifested himself as a human and as flesh while roaming the Earth, while the Father was sitting on a throne in heaven. We need to understand that God is omnipotent and omnipresent, He is the creator and He is not bound by creation. He can have an unlimited train of thoughts. He can be everywhere at once. In fact, scripture says His presence fills creation and that He is the ancient of days. He is a Spirit, not bound by space nor time. In order to interact with us, His Spirit in His most holy and majestic form manifested into a form we can wholly and totally call God. As a means for us to comprehend Him and to interact with Him.

I did this explanation to you because you should know these things, "Shema Israel, ADONAI ELOHINU ADONAI echad." Our God is One, not Three.

(I'll probably make a copy and paste thread about this)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

Y'SHUA and the Apostles are still Jews. No worries. (regarding being Jewish! )
Y'SHUA is KING OF THE JEWS. (AMAZING GRACE! Extravagantly superabundantly generous and overflowing from HIS THRONE/ LIFE to everyone HE calls).
I am a Jew (by birth as far as I know)
and by faith grafted in as well, since I was first saved, redeemed, purchased by the BLOOD OF Y'SHUA HAMOSHIACH
and the walls that once kept me from the holy of holies were removed,
YHWH removed the veil clouding my mind,
and seated me in the heavenly IN Y'SHUA MESSIAH.

 

[Tree of Life]

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

You're more a true Jew now than ever.

 

[crossnote]

I like the term 'completed Jew' for those Jews who have embraced Yeshua as their Messiah.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

I'm just about ready to convert. I've been pushed to that edge. But the last question I have is if I have to stop calling myself a Jew. Truthfully, I don't want to. I don't necessarily want to be a "Jew for Jesus," in that, I don't intend to honor any Jewish religious customs, and to be quite frank with you, I'm not a big fan of the Jewish people I grew up around, either.

But it's still in my DNA. It's still part of who I am. I don't want to shed it outright.

Can I not be a Jew who simply recognizes that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior, and that only by accepting him as such and worshiping him and praising him for all he's done for this world and his sacrifice can we be saved?

Because that's the point where I'm at. I humble myself before our Lord Jesus Christ. There is only one true God, and he sent his only son to die for our sins. I accept this. I bow before him. I would give my life if he asked, and it's his to take at any time.

But I am not able to mentally convince myself I'm not still a Jew.

I love Jewish people.

Hey, I grew up as a Muslim and then believed in Jesus many years ago. I hear you. It's very hard to let go of who you so strongly identified yourself as, your whole life. It's very hard to become a "traitor" to your own, maybe even an outcast, in some sense. Or laughing stock to friends. It's hard. But be brave. Jesus said, I will never leave you nor forsake you. Jesus said, if you lose family or friends or property as the result of following me, I will reimburse you in the afterlife hundredfold. If believing in Jesus Christ is what your heart chooses, follow it to the end! No turning back, no playing games, no compromises. You owe nobody anything, nobody owes you anything. Your life. Most important thing for you. Your relationship with your God. Very intimate. Nobody's business. If you do it, do it fully. Never ever be a coward and try and hide or minimize your newly found faith, your newly chosen identity. It's a slippery slope otherwise - lying? Double life? In the open and in secret? Nothing can be more destructive to the soul. Jesus said, whoever refuses to confess me openly, I will do the same to them. Harsh! Take up your cross, He said, and follow me. He did it. His followers are expected to do likewise. All or nothing, no "in-betweens" of any sort. Never.

 

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[thesunisout]

Hello, you have to remember that Jesus was a Jew and so Christianity is actually technically a Jewish religion. The bible tells us that Christians are considered spiritual Jews who have been grafted into the Jewish olive tree. So, you can consider yourself a Jew both physically and spiritually, depending on your heritage. It so blessed to hear you are converting to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Those who put their faith and trust in Him will never be ashamed.