i don't think i can get back

[blossom15]

I don't think I can get back. I don't think I can post about what's happened. I don't know if words of knowledge are still possible - I guess I think they are - if anyone knows that God is speaking to them about my situation, please can they pm me or write here. I do sometimes pray but I don't have much discernment it seems.

 

[chrisstavrous]

I don't think I can get back. I don't think I can post about what's happened. I don't know if words of knowledge are still possible - I guess I think they are - if anyone knows that God is speaking to them about my situation, please can they pm me or write here. I do sometimes pray but I don't have much discernment it seems.

I feel for you and would love to help you, but I don't hear anything from god so I hope you work out whatever is going on.

 

[joey_downunder]

God is Love. God welcomes all sinners who come back to Him. Feeling condemned? There’s hope! How to cope when riddled with guilt. Christian answers

 

[bling]

You cannot "get back" but God is right at your side wanting to help, just turn to accept His help.

 

[blossom15]

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[Observer]

I'm sorry you're feeling this way. I'm praying for you. Is it about another person, a relationship?

You may not physically be able to get back to where you were but spiritually and emotionally you can feel healed and it won't rule your life anymore, but it can be hard to get to that point.

 

[blossom15]

I'm sorry you're feeling this way. I'm praying for you. Is it about another person, a relationship?

You may not physically be able to get back to where you were but spiritually and emotionally you can feel healed and it won't rule your life anymore, but it can be hard to get to that point.

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[parsley]

We're sorry to hear about your troubles.

While words of knowledge encourage believers and confirm God's leading, it is important to not depend on them -- it is God we depend on, and He is the same communicating to you, to us, to others. He knows your situation and cares about it. He cares about YOU.

Perhaps He is not giving a word to people, because He wants you to rely more fully on Him. He does not want us to live like magicians who conjure up amazing information. He will do that when it is needed, but learning to live wisely is even more needed. If you want help, then seek out someone that you can trust, and exercise wisdom in whom you select. Build your ability to find wise solutions.

I know that sounds insensitive, but it is scriptural.

Proverbs 15:22

Where there is no counsel, plans fail; But in a multitude of counselors they are established.


After a certain amount of posts, you can send PM notes to people that you've seen post in a way that you trust and respect. I think you will find a lot more help that way -- and possibly some resources that can help you out locally.

(BTW the prophecy subforum was closed here, and I suspect it was for the reason that people were giving each other personal prophecies that might have been damaging... so it might even be against the rules to offer and request prophetic input.)

 

[parsley]

Found it... "● Personal Prophecy (prophetic utterance) will be considered off-topic to all site forums. These may be posted in your own personal blog."

So... is there a way that you can ask for help without describing it in detail? We can certainly pray for you too.

 

[TheJust]

I don't think I can get back. I don't think I can post about what's happened. I don't know if words of knowledge are still possible - I guess I think they are - if anyone knows that God is speaking to them about my situation, please can they pm me or write here. I do sometimes pray but I don't have much discernment it seems.

I do not know your situation though I do know it is meaningless in the eyes of God, by that I mean your perception of it is meaningless as only love exists if you are experiencing anything but love then you are suffering from delusions and sin, surrender them completely to God and he will transmute your worries to absolute peace.

And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Romans 12:2

 

[blossom15]

We're sorry to hear about your troubles.

While words of knowledge encourage believers and confirm God's leading, it is important to not depend on them -- it is God we depend on, and He is the same communicating to you, to us, to others. He knows your situation and cares about it. He cares about YO

Perhaps He is not giving a word to people, because He wants you to rely more fully on Him. He does not want us to live like magicians who conjure up amazing information.

He will do that when it is needed, but learning to live wisely is even more needed. If you want help, then seek out someone that you can trust, and exercise wisdom in whom you select. Build your ability to find wise solutions.

I know that sounds insensitive, but it is scriptural.

Proverbs 15:22

Where there is no counsel, plans fail; But in a multitude of counselors they are established.

I agree with trying to live wisely, and for me that means moving on now.

After a certain amount of posts, you can send PM notes to people that you've seen post in a way that you trust and respect. I think you will find a lot more help that way -- and possibly some resources that can help you out locally.

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[oi_antz]

But as for there being a divine being who inspired the bible - he's not there.

Actually, that is where I found Him, so it makes me wonder what is going on. Are you certain there is not more to your vision of Christianity than what is strictly biblical? Are there parts of the bible that are particularly troublesome while others make good sense? Do you still retain any faith in God, albeit not based on the bible?

 

[blossom15]

Actually, that is where I found Him, so it makes me wonder what is going on. Are you certain there is not more to your vision of Christianity than what is strictly biblical? Are there parts of the bible that are particularly troublesome while others make good sense? Do you still retain any faith in God, albeit not based on the bible?

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[oi_antz]

My IQ is diminished because of damage caused by the drug, so I'm not as able to respond as I might have been.

I hope you feel better soon. Has it helped you in any way? Have you told the doctor that it has been harmful? Normally doctors are eager to ask how the medication is working. Are you comfortable to share the name of the medication? I would be interested to look it up.

I'm pretty certain that there is not more to my vision of Christianity than what is strictly biblical - I came to Christianity later in life with very little prior exposure, and was taught at fairly fundamentalist churches who took the bible literally. I now think that was really unhelpful - perhaps I might have survived if I had held to a more liberal interpretation - I don't know.

Yeah, when I say extra-biblical, I mean to say that there are ideas that can arise outside of the bible, the become justified by the bible. Yet, when this happens to be a problem, it can be seen that some of the ideas actually contradict what the bible teaches in other places. So then if you are confident that the ideas you were taught are strictly biblical, how about the question is your image of Christianity fully biblical? IE, are there statements in the bible that contradict the ideas that you believe are biblical?

Yes, there are definitely parts of the bible that are particularly troublesome - that's a given.

What parts of the bible cause trouble for you? Also, are you saying here that parts of the bible still fit well with you? Where do you draw the line?

As for a faith in God, I think that there could be some kind of consciousness or energy - especially since psychics, for example, can sometimes pick up on information. But I'm starting to doubt that there's anything after death.

The bible doesn't teach anything after death, as far as I can tell. It teaches resurrection into judgement and everlasting glory. But we don't get to experience that until the last day. Is this different from what you have been taught, and is there biblical proof if you think differently?

 

[blossom15]

I hope you feel better soon. Has it helped you in any way? Have you told the doctor that it has been harmful? Normally doctors are eager to ask how the medication is working. Are you comfortable to share the name of the medication? I would be interested to look it up.

Yeah, when I say extra-biblical, I mean to say that there are ideas that can arise outside of the bible, the become justified by the bible. Yet, when this happens to be a problem, it can be seen that some of the ideas actually contradict what the bible teaches in other places. So then if you are confident that the ideas you were taught are strictly biblical, how about the question is your image of Christianity fully biblical? IE, are there statements in the bible that contradict the ideas that you believe are biblical?

What parts of the bible cause trouble for you? Also, are you saying here that parts of the bible still fit well with you? Where do you draw the line?

The bible doesn't teach anything after death, as far as I can tell. It teaches resurrection into judgement and everlasting glory. But we don't get to experience that until the last day. Is this different from what you have been taught, and is there biblical proof if you think differently?

Hi oi_antz, I sent you a pm.

 

[paul1149]

I will never go to the local church where I was at again. People there continually told me that as I was suffering with an illness that I needed to take the medical advice on offer for. The medical advice was wrong - it has caused me to become chemically dependent on a drug which has caused brain damage (which could account for a lot of the suffering I was experiencing), diabetes & other unpleasant symptoms. Not one person at church believed me when I said that I thought it could be the drug - instead they put me under pressure to take it, or to take the doctor's advice, which was to take it.

In addition, over the years I have given away almost all of my spare cash (I am on a very low income due to the illness I've had) and I'm never doing that again to watch my pastor go on ski trips, whilst I miss out on a break for 10 years because of the pull on my heart strings that I needed to give 'to God'.

I hate it when the visible church misrepresents God. Unfortunately, stumbling blocks will come, as we have been repeatedly warned. If you want a stunning view of the imperfect, even dangerous church, read Matthew 24. Some of the problems are due to greed and lust, others are due to ignorance, apathy or immaturity, which amount to lovelessness.

I am sorry you experienced this. My prayer is that you would be led forward in clarity and peace, and would come to understand that while man can and will fail, God never fails.

 

[oi_antz]

Hi oi_antz, I sent you a pm.

Hi blossom, I have a response typed and waiting, get back in touch when you feel like talking again

 

[parsley]

Hi Blossom, thanks for explaining your situation. Sorry that I responded with forum rules -- I didn't know enough of what was going on.

It's too bad that so many people misled you about treatment. I've seen that happen before -- not necessarily in church, but yes also there -- and have even seen that with doctors misdiagnosing. It is so hard to find the right allies in life, people who will help us survive.

I have concluded that personal information needs to be guarded, because others will grasp to own it and twist, or manage outcomes. When we have a few close friends or relatives, counselors or doctors we can trust with the information, that is a precious find.