I can't get into a few forums that I was in this morning

texastig · Mar 27, 2008

I was in the Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warefare Forums this moring. At 10:10am cst
I can't get into them and this is the error I'm getting:

texastig, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Thanks,
TT

ProfessorMom · Mar 27, 2008

Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have been closed. They are no longer available.

texastig · Mar 26, 2008

ProfessorMom said:
Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have been closed. They are no longer available.

I can run them. I've moderated four different boards before in the past.
Could you let someone know that?
If they don't want to do that can the boards be made read only because there's lots of good info there.
Thanks,
TT

texastig · Mar 27, 2008

ProfessorMom said:
Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have been closed. They are no longer available.

I can run them. I've moderated four different boards before in the past.
Could you let someone know that?
If they don't want to do that can the boards be made read only because there's lots of good info there.
Thanks,
TT

Tenebrae · Mar 26, 2008

ProfessorMom said:
Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have been closed. They are no longer available.

is this a permamnent closure?

I can really appreciate why it was done, however some advance warning would have been really cool incase people wanted to get old posts etc

Thanks for any heads up you can give

Tenebrae · Mar 27, 2008

ProfessorMom said:
Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have been closed. They are no longer available.

is this a permamnent closure?

I can really appreciate why it was done, however some advance warning would have been really cool incase people wanted to get old posts etc

Thanks for any heads up you can give

texastig · Mar 27, 2008

The higher ups had wanted suggestions for the forums and I and others told them to make two different forums for the two different views but they didn't do that.
It worked for another forum on CF.
Thanks,
TT

gentlefire · Mar 27, 2008

them being closed is quite a surprise, a shame there was no advance warning. making them read only is a very good idea.

Chaplain David · Mar 27, 2008

I don't know what is going on with them either. However, I've noticed that they are posting an MNPhysicist message about them in every forum - top, left. Just clicked on it and got nada but something should be up shortly. They're not in all the forums yet and I don't see that they're working yet but they eventually will. Here's one page with the links. (Hi Karen)

texastig said:
I was in the Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warefare Forums this moring. At 10:10am cst
I can't get into them and this is the error I'm getting:

texastig, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?

If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Thanks,
TT

Richard · Mar 27, 2008

The Admins are still discussing what is going on, I have no more information then you. I know they are closed and I don't know if they will be re-opened, read only, or what. Please bear with me as we all wait and see what they want to do.

Tenebrae · Mar 27, 2008

RichardMac said:
The Admins are still discussing what is going on, I have no more information then you. I know they are closed and I don't know if they will be re-opened, read only, or what. Please bear with me as we all wait and see what they want to do.

I'm sad it had to come to this, however I can really understand why the mods felt the need to take things in this direction.

I would like to say Kudos you guys, I know this wasnt an easy decision, and thankyou for being prepared to go where God leads

intricatic · Mar 27, 2008

Does this mean those forums are closed permanently? I remember modding parts of that area, and I don't envy the mods who were assigned there. I definitely understand the closure, though.

ProfessorMom · Mar 27, 2008

Removed duplicate post.

ProfessorMom · Mar 27, 2008

RichadMac said:
The Admins are still discussing what is going on, I have no more information then you. I know they are closed and I don't know if they will be re-opened, read only, or what. Please bear with me as we all wait and see what they want to do.

Let me elaborate. Unfortunately, Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have drastically changed from their original intended purpose. They no longer serve members in the way it was hoped they might. For that reason, they have been closed and will remain closed.

Tenebrae said:
I'm sad it had to come to this, however I can really understand why the mods felt the need to take things in this direction.

I would like to say Kudos you guys, I know this wasnt an easy decision, and thankyou for being prepared to go where God leads

Thank you.

intricatic said:
Does this mean those forums are closed permanently? I remember modding parts of that area, and I don't envy the mods who were assigned there. I definitely understand the closure, though.

Yes, they will remain closed and archived.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Mar 27, 2008

That's a real shame because, to be perfectly honest, while they did not bes a perfect solution and had to put up with much squabbling, there really bes no other alternatives out there like them. Everywhere else you go, open discussion bes verboten
and horrible abuses and sick, malicious teachings that harm people take place. Moriah went to one board the other night and discovered these ppls whats not trained in any kind of psychiatric counseling literally tampering with very vulnerable mentally ill ppls (or at least ppls that believed themselves to have multiple personalities, etc. and whether they did or not they seemed pretty fragile and tractable), messing with their ideas of themselves telling them things like parts of them bes demons, etc. Really horrible, and when it tried to post something not even inflammatory just saying honestly how it felt that bes dangerous, it got immediately deleted and banned, no explanation.

At least on the DM and SW sections here ppls could openly share their views on things, even if ppls disagreed with one another they bes allowed to state that and state why and offer scriptures or research to back it up. There literally bes no decent or viable alternative that this one has found on the web yet to replace what you have chosen to remove.

But then again dealing with vulnerable persons whats got spiritual issues that don't snap to and fit the mold and clean up quick has never been CF's forte, has it.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Mar 27, 2008

That's a real shame because, to be perfectly honest, while they did not bes a perfect solution and had to put up with much squabbling, there really bes no other alternatives out there like them. Everywhere else you go, open discussion bes verboten and horrible abuses and sick, malicious teachings that harm people take place. Moriah went to one board the other night and discovered these ppls whats not trained in any kind of psychiatric counseling literally tampering with very vulnerable mentally ill ppls (or at least ppls that believed themselves to have multiple personalities, etc. and whether they did or not they seemed pretty fragile and tractable), messing with their ideas of themselves telling them things like parts of them bes demons, etc. Really horrible, and when it tried to post something not even inflammatory just saying honestly how it felt that bes dangerous, it got immediately deleted and banned, no explanation.

At least on the DM and SW sections here ppls could openly share their views on things, even if ppls disagreed with one another they bes allowed to state that and state why and offer scriptures or research to back it up. There literally bes no decent or viable alternative that this one has found on the web yet to replace what you have chosen to remove.

But then again dealing with vulnerable persons whats got spiritual issues that don't snap to and fit the mold and clean up quick has never been CF's forte, has it. So perhaps in the long run it bes best not to tease people in need with a level of welcome what you cannot offer.

intricatic · Mar 27, 2008

Moriah_Conquering_Wind said:
That's a real shame because, to be perfectly honest, while they did not bes a perfect solution and had to put up with much squabbling, there really bes no other alternatives out there like them. Everywhere else you go, open discussion bes verboten and horrible abuses and sick, malicious teachings that harm people take place. Moriah went to one board the other night and discovered these ppls whats not trained in any kind of psychiatric counseling literally tampering with very vulnerable mentally ill ppls (or at least ppls that believed themselves to have multiple personalities, etc. and whether they did or not they seemed pretty fragile and tractable), messing with their ideas of themselves telling them things like parts of them bes demons, etc. Really horrible, and when it tried to post something not even inflammatory just saying honestly how it felt that bes dangerous, it got immediately deleted and banned, no explanation.

At least on the DM and SW sections here ppls could openly share their views on things, even if ppls disagreed with one another they bes allowed to state that and state why and offer scriptures or research to back it up. There literally bes no decent or viable alternative that this one has found on the web yet to replace what you have chosen to remove.

But then again dealing with vulnerable persons whats got spiritual issues that don't snap to and fit the mold and clean up quick has never been CF's forte, has it. So perhaps in the long run it bes best not to tease people in need with a level of welcome what you cannot offer.

Huh?

BellaSong · Mar 27, 2008

ProfessorMom said:
Let me elaborate. Unfortunately, Deliverance Ministry and Spiritual Warfare forums have drastically changed from their original intended purpose. They no longer serve members in the way it was hoped they might. For that reason, they have been closed and will remain closed.

Yes, they will remain closed and archived.

Could you please give us more information on this decision? I think it was very wrong to just close them with no warning.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Mar 27, 2008

Bella, the bottom line bes this: they don't care.

They don't CARE.

Moriah_Conquering_Wind · Mar 27, 2008

intricatic said:
Huh?

What part of its post did you fail to comprehend? You may pM for an explanation if you wish.

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