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<blockquote data-quote="BigV" data-source="post: 74379350" data-attributes="member: 209098"><p>Point is, Christian or not, when a war is happening, the Bible's turn the other cheek and love your enemy goes out of the window. By the same token, lets not pain all Muslims bad as a whole, shall we? No religion has monopoly on violence.</p><p></p><p>I think you are forgetting Martin Luther's book "On the Jews and Their Lies" that non-Jewish Germans were familiar with. Anti Semitism was not strictly a Catholic thing.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies" target="_blank">On the Jews and Their Lies - Wikipedia</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Adolf Hitler personally probably killed very few people. Most people were killed by Nazi Germans and those who sympathized their ideology. Many Nazi Germans themselves were Protestants and Catholics and non-religious. Mostly Christians though. Also, without the willing participation of the local population, Nazi's would not be able to kill as many Jews. And many locals were Christians too. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Stalin was an atheist, but it would be dishonest to claim he killed in the name of atheism. Stalin was responsible for conversion of the Soviet Union from mostly agrarian to industrialized nation. No doubt many locals resisted and detested the government taking their land, so ended up dead or sent to Siberia. But what was the alternative? If not for Stalin's industrialization, the Nazi's would have probably won and then the people of the Soviet Union would suffer the fate of the Native Americans.</p><p></p><p>Btw, European Christian settlers treated Native Americans with dignity and utmost respect, right? Are these the Christian values? </p><p></p><p>Lets not forget that it was the US who dropped an atomic bomb, a WMD on Japan. No doubt leadership at that time and the soldiers were mostly Christian too.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Spare me the outrage, please.</p><p></p><p>Being that you are from South Africa, I thought you may appreciate what this article is saying about Evangelicals and Apartheid:</p><p><a href="https://www.cbeinternational.org/blogs/justifying-injustice-bible-apartheid" target="_blank">Justifying Injustice with the Bible: Apartheid</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigV, post: 74379350, member: 209098"] Point is, Christian or not, when a war is happening, the Bible's turn the other cheek and love your enemy goes out of the window. By the same token, lets not pain all Muslims bad as a whole, shall we? No religion has monopoly on violence. I think you are forgetting Martin Luther's book "On the Jews and Their Lies" that non-Jewish Germans were familiar with. Anti Semitism was not strictly a Catholic thing. [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies']On the Jews and Their Lies - Wikipedia[/URL] Adolf Hitler personally probably killed very few people. Most people were killed by Nazi Germans and those who sympathized their ideology. Many Nazi Germans themselves were Protestants and Catholics and non-religious. Mostly Christians though. Also, without the willing participation of the local population, Nazi's would not be able to kill as many Jews. And many locals were Christians too. Stalin was an atheist, but it would be dishonest to claim he killed in the name of atheism. Stalin was responsible for conversion of the Soviet Union from mostly agrarian to industrialized nation. No doubt many locals resisted and detested the government taking their land, so ended up dead or sent to Siberia. But what was the alternative? If not for Stalin's industrialization, the Nazi's would have probably won and then the people of the Soviet Union would suffer the fate of the Native Americans. Btw, European Christian settlers treated Native Americans with dignity and utmost respect, right? Are these the Christian values? Lets not forget that it was the US who dropped an atomic bomb, a WMD on Japan. No doubt leadership at that time and the soldiers were mostly Christian too. Spare me the outrage, please. Being that you are from South Africa, I thought you may appreciate what this article is saying about Evangelicals and Apartheid: [URL="https://www.cbeinternational.org/blogs/justifying-injustice-bible-apartheid"]Justifying Injustice with the Bible: Apartheid[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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