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Nehi said:
Actually that is not a question, it is a directive and comment.

~ NEHI

BTW, are the RLDS a true church? If not, why?
I apologize for the miswording of my post.

The RLDS church (now the Community of Christ) is a true church, just as any other, just not the True Church of Jesus Christ. There can only be one, and He calls His prophet to guide His Church, of which He is the chief corner stone. RLDS denied the calling of the true prophet of God, Brigham Young, many years ago, and have since meanered farther and farther away from the Truth. As I understand it, they no longer believe in the Book of Mormon, but that may just be rumor.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon
 
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Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God.

Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made. (the Word)

Joh 1:4 In him was life: and the life was the light of men.

Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Joh 1:6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

Joh 1:7 This man came for a witness, to give testimony of the light, that all men might believe through him.

Joh 1:8 He was not the light, but was to give testimony of the light.

Joh 1:9 That was the true light, which enlighteneth every man that cometh into this world.

Joh 1:10 He was in the world: and the world was made by him: and the world knew him not.

Joh 1:11 He came unto his own: and his own received him not.

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, he gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name.

Joh 1:13 Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us (and we saw his glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father), full of grace and truth.

Joh 1:15 John beareth witness of him and crieth out, saying: This was he of whom I spoke: He that shall come after me is preferred before me: because he was before me.

Joh 1:16 And of his fulness we all have received: and grace for grace.

Joh 1:17 For the law was given by Moses: grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time: the only begotten Son who is in the Bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Joh 1:19 And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent from Jerusalem priests and Levites to him, to ask him: Who art thou?

Joh 1:20 And he confessed and did not deny: and he confessed: I am not the Christ.

Joh 1:21 And they asked him: What then? Art thou Elias? And he said: I am not. Art thou the prophet? And he answered: No.

Joh 1:22 They said therefore unto him: Who art thou, that we may give an answer to them that sent us? What sayest thou of thyself?

Joh 1:23 He said: I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Isaias.

Joh 1:24 And they that were sent were of the Pharisees.

Joh 1:25 And they asked him and said to him: Why then dost thou baptize, if thou be not Christ, nor Elias, nor the prophet?

Joh 1:26 John answered them, saying: I baptize with water: but there hath stood one in the midst of you, whom you know not.

Joh 1:27 The same is he that shall come after me, who is preferred before me: the latchet of whose shoe I am not worthy to loose.

Joh 1:28 These things were done in Bethania, beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

Joh 1:29 The next day, John saw Jesus coming to him; and he saith: Behold the Lamb of God. Behold him who taketh away the sin of the world.

Joh 1:30 This is he of whom I said: After me there cometh a man, who is preferred before me: because he was before me.

Joh 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he may be made manifest in Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

Joh 1:32 And John gave testimony, saying: I saw the Spirit coming down, as a dove from heaven; and he remained upon him.

Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me: He upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending and remaining upon him, he it is that baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Joh 1:34 And I saw: and I gave testimony that this is the Son of God.

Joh 1:35 The next day again John stood and two of his disciples.

Joh 1:36 And beholding Jesus walking, he saith: Behold the Lamb of God.

Joh 1:37 And the two disciples heard him speak: and they followed Jesus.

Joh 1:38 And Jesus turning and seeing them following him, saith to them: What seek you? Who said to him: Rabbi (which is to say, being interpreted, Master), where dwellest thou?

Joh 1:39 He saith to them: Come and see. They came and saw where he abode: and they stayed with him that day. Now it was about the tenth hour.

Joh 1:40 And Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, was one of the two who had heard of John and followed him.

Joh 1:41 He findeth first his brother Simon and saith to him: We have found the Messias,(Messiah) which is, being interpreted, the Christ.

Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And Jesus looking upon him, said: Thou art Simon the son of Jona. Thou shalt be called Cephas, which is interpreted Peter.

Joh 1:43 On the following day, he would go forth into Galilee: and he findeth Philip, And Jesus saith to him: follow me.

Joh 1:44 Now Philip was of Bethsaida, the city of Andrew and Peter.

Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael and saith to him: We have found him of whom Moses, in the law and the prophets did write, Jesus the son of Joseph of Nazareth.

Joh 1:46 And Nathanael said to him: Can any thing of good come from Nazareth? Philip saith to him: Come and see.

Joh 1:47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him and he saith of him: Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no guile.

Joh 1:48 Nathanael saith to him: Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said to him: Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.

Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered him and said: Rabbi: Thou art the Son of God. Thou art the King of Israel.

Joh 1:50 Jesus answered and said to him: Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, thou believest: greater things than these shalt thou see.

Joh 1:51 And he saith to him: Amen, amen, I say to you, you shall see the heaven opened and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

He is the Word
He is God
He is Lord
He is the Son of God
He is the Lamb of God
He is the Light
He is the Son of man
He is Rabbi
He is King of Isreal
He is the Son of Joseph of Nazareth
He is the Messiah
He is Christ
He is Jesus
He is our Redeemer
He in the flesh is God-man
He not in the flesh is God
He is all of these things... and there is only one that I know that is all of thes things and that is God. We pray to him and through Him and for Him... That is what we are told to do...

In the name of the Father Son and the Holy Ghost Amen
 
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Nice post and Amen! All I can add is this:

"Praise God from whom all blessings flow!
Praise Him all creatures here below!
Praise Him above ye heavenly Host!
Praise Father, Son and Holy Ghost!"

Amen!
 
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Jenda, I expect, will correct you about the RLDS (CoC) and the BoM. She might also like a better explanation of your statement...

The RLDS church (now the Community of Christ) is a true church, just as any other, just not the True Church of Jesus Christ.
Splain it to me too, please, cause NEHI's fuddleness is escalating significantly!

~ NEHI
 
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Yes Emerald that post was for you to help you to see and understand better... forgive me for my boldness with it... And I am glad that you have accepted the Lord as your Saviour...
 
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emerald Dragon said:
What do you wished to be "splained", NEHI?

Also, debiwebi, could you put in a nutshell what you are trying to tell me, from those scriptures?

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon
Jesus Is God .. In a nutshell... therefore we Worship Him and the Father and the Holy Ghost.... All three persons Make one Being that is God Almighty... I am overjoyed that you have excepted Christ our Lord as your Saviour
 
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hmmmm......I thought Jesus was the chief cornerstone.

fwiw
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emerald Dragon said:
What do you wished to be "splained", NEHI?


God Bless,
Emerald Dragon
Splain how an organization can be "A" true Church and not "THE" true Church.

If the LDS are "THE" true church, then non-LDS churches can't be "A" true Church.

Strains the meaning of "TRUE."

And then there is this "historical episode"

Observations:

[1] I kinda wish Joseph had the handshake revelation prior to this appearance. Know what I mean?

[2] Seems like other churches aren't viewed as "a true church" in any sense. The phrase "abomination in my sight" and "they were all wrong" and "corrupt"
is my clue here.

- NEHI (confused but not to be confused with Nephi)
 
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repentandbelieve said:
Why are you so quick to throw out sharp critizisms towards a new brother in Christ.
You are able to see the errors of others but are blind to your own.

I wouldn't say that everyone who claims to be a Christian is. Some of us know how hard LDS try to deceive us. Even their missionaries don't believe that being Christian is good enough.

The LDS believe that you must convert to Mormonism to be with God the Father in the next life.

Mormon apostle Bruce McConkie claimed: "Jesus kept the commandments of his Father and thereby worked out his own salvation, and also set an example as to the way and the means whereby all men may be saved" (The Mortal Messiah, Vol.4, p.434).

"The greatest responsibility in this world that God has laid upon us is to seek after our dead...Those saints who neglect it in behalf of their deceased relatives, do it at peril of their own salvation" (Joseph Smith, in Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.356, 196).

Marriages sealed in the Temple: "Marriage is not only a righteous institution, but obedience to this law [Temple marriage] is absolutely necessary in order to obtain the highest exaltation in the Kingdom of God" (Milton R. Hunter, in Gospel Through the Ages, p.119).

Keeping the whole law: "To enter the celestial [kingdom] and obtain exaltation, it is necessary that the whole law be kept...Do you desire to enter the celestial Kingdom and receive eternal life? Then be willing to keep all of the commandments" (Joseph Fielding Smith, in The Way to Perfection, p.206).

Plural marriage: "the doctrine of plural and celestial marriage is the most holy and important doctrine ever revealed to man on earth, and that without obedience to that principle no man can ever attain to the fullness of exaltation in the celestial glory" (William Clayton in Historical Record, p.266);

"the only men who become gods, even the Son of God, are those who enter into polygamy" (Brigham Young, in Journal of Discourses, vol. 11, p.269).

IOW, LDS believe only LDS can have eternal life.
 
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Brigham was a true prophet???

if that fool had not said half the garbage that he did, your church would look a hundred times better. That man was nothing but a racist pedophile with a power complex.
 
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GodsWordisTrue said:
The LDS believe that you must convert to Mormonism to be with God the Father in the next life.
Here's some more support:

which is consistent with Brigham Young's teaching...

 
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Nehi said:
Here's some more support:

which is consistent with Brigham Young's teaching...
IOW, that no one can get there to even be judged except through Joseph Smith therefore making Him the Redeemer and not the Lord Jesus Christ .... That is not Christian Teaching
 
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But this testimony is not official church doctrine, so as far as I can tell, that means it could be a lie, it could be misunderstood, it could be changed by others.

And who is the "harlot of the earth"?
 
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And who is the "harlot of the earth"?
I don't know

Is this some of their teachings or a question you are asking?

Considering I have now looked through this thread to see if this has been brought up, "harlot of the earth" and I do not see it anywhere I certainly hope that it has something to do with there teachings that has not already been discussed in this thread. And I most certainly hope it has no relationship to the "harlot of babylon/earth" that is often equated to the Church...

So I am asking for some clarification please....
 
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Svt4Him said:
But this testimony is not official church doctrine, so as far as I can tell, that means it could be a lie, it could be misunderstood, it could be changed by others.

And who is the "harlot of the earth"?
The harlot of the earth is the church of the devil, the church that proclaims false doctrines. And, yes my testimony could possibly be "wrong", but as the Holy Ghost is the one that testifies of its truthfullness to me, I know that it isn't.

A church can have part of the truth, but not all of it. The True Church has all the Truth as revealed at that time. All others have only part of it, making them true churches in part.

God Bless,
Emerald Dragon
 
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Would that be an expire date stamped revelation, good for the life of the "prophet"?
 
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But it says in the Bibl;e that the devil will use truth but only partial truth in order to entice those into a false sense of safety all the while he has the hold on them ... So IOWs you are saying that all of us that only hold partial truth are therefore the "harlot of the earth" IOW not Christian?
 
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A church that isn't true is of the devil. Christ is the head of His Church. All Christians belong to the True Church regardless of their denomination.

Acts 2
47Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
 
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