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NASB Romans 12:3 For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.
Question: It's hard to know what to think.
So what do we do? We would like to serve. We would like to feel fulfilled. We would like to use our gifts for the benefit of others. But even as we attempt to do so we are aware that some will accept us and some will not. It will affect our self-esteem.
We dare not be proud, because we have learned that God resists the proud. We must be clothed with humility.
And yet we are told that we are the sons of God. As believers in the Lord Jesus Christ we are, each of us, the child of a king. A royal priesthood. He has made us kings and priests to God.
(1 Cor 4:7)What do you have that you did not receive? If you received it, why do you boast about it? If you are different, isn't it because God has made you different?
Yet it has been said that there are three versions of you: 1. What you think of yourself. 2. What others think of you. 3. What you really are.
Some of us have very low self-esteem, based in part on what others have said of us. But is that not an affront to God? Some of us think very highly of ourselves. But what if it is too high? What if it equals pride? Some of us have yet to learn what God has built into us.
Yet this latter seems to be the focus of the scripture saying that we should think soberly. We should recognize and accept what God has made us.
How high then should be your self-esteem?
Answer from Ed:
Ah! The wonderful world of psycho-babble. "It's hard to know what to think." "1. What you think of yourself. 2. What others think of you. 3. What you really are."
Then you answered the question yourself. "And yet we are told that we are the sons of God. As believers in the Lord Jesus Christ we are, each of us, the child of a king. A royal priesthood. He has made us kings and priests to God."
Galations 5:16-26 tells us who we are how to think and most importantly how to live this life.
Let the Spirit lead you not the psycho-babble that is so popular today.
Question I agree. So now please tell us: How high is your self-esteem? Do you think of yourself as a king or as a servant? Do you combine them both? And then what do you get?
Romans 12:3 is in the context of fitting into the body, the church. Does it not matter then, how you come across to people?
The question has the serious goal of helping us to have a proper self-concept and to carry ourselves accordingly.
Answer from Ed:
James 4:10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and He will lift you up.
When your secure in Christ Jesus you humble yourself and let Him present you to the world.
We get all tangled in psycho-babble trying to decide how act, feel and respond to those around us. If we have a servants heart knowing we are secure children of the King we don't have to pretend to be something we are not.
If we let the world define us then we worry how it views us. If we Let God define us we know how He views us.
1 Peter 5:5-6 Likewise you younger people, submit yourselves to your elders. Yes, all of you be submissive to one another, and be clothed with humility, for "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble." [6] Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you in due time,
I know that breaks with everything we have been told but God is awesome God and He is in control.Ed
Question : Ah, Ed, you make it sound so easy.
Part of my motivation for asking the question was a conversation I had with a client yesterday afternoon. She confided that she has been saved for 12 years. And yet, up to this point she has thought of herself as worthless.
It is apparent that some of our brethren are like that sister was, walking around with low self-esteem. Others are haughty, arrogant, even proud. Some answer the telephone with, "Can I help you", giving the impression they are only here on this earth to give help.
So I guess I think the matter is not quite that simple. And I should have known. Why did Paul think it necessary to "say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think"?
It seems to me that some think too highly and some think too lowly. Or am I wrong about that?
Answer:
Too many Christians allow themselves to be convinced they have to live in the past. We have learned to explain our behavior pointing to things in the past whether good or bad and how they effect us, how we should deal with them and even what to expect should issues change. We are in fact allowing ourselves to be made slaves to our old self.
I ask one question, "are you saved?" The answer, "yes" then I say the Bible must lie because since in 2 Cor. 5:17 it says "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new."
I say, "if he was really save the old things couldn't have a hold on him."
Christ called him to put away the past to live for the future, knowing nothing on this earth can effect his position in Christ. That God loved him and thought him special enough that He willingly gave His only begotten Son to die for Him.
Is it that simple not always, but unless we forget all the pyscho-babble and hold tightly to 2 Cor. 5:17 we will never realize the worth esteemed to us through Jesus Christ.
Ed
Note: Many thanks amen. God bless
Note:
Thanks, and yes it is not always that easy or quick. But the Christian community has got to stop letting the world define us and start getting into the Bible and finding out how God defines us. Our worth, our being, our purpose are defined by, and established in God. Until one realizes the value God places on us we have a hard time justifing ourselves.
EdB
Apologies for the length, but helpful,
I pray that you are illuminated and blessed by the Holy Spirit.
SHALOM.