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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Quayle" data-source="post: 76846360" data-attributes="member: 410020"><p>That makes just about as much sense as to say that God can make something so big even he can't pick it up. You imagine a being you want me to prove non-existent? </p><p></p><p>We've already been through this. First Cause has intent, or it would be mere mechanical fact. Mere Mechanical Fact cannot be self-existent first cause, because it is subject to laws from outside itself, such as logic and math, according to you. It did not cause them. (If it did cause them, it caused them by accident (not intent), which is logically self-contradictory too.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Quayle, post: 76846360, member: 410020"] That makes just about as much sense as to say that God can make something so big even he can't pick it up. You imagine a being you want me to prove non-existent? We've already been through this. First Cause has intent, or it would be mere mechanical fact. Mere Mechanical Fact cannot be self-existent first cause, because it is subject to laws from outside itself, such as logic and math, according to you. It did not cause them. (If it did cause them, it caused them by accident (not intent), which is logically self-contradictory too.) [/QUOTE]
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