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<blockquote data-quote="doubtingmerle" data-source="post: 76833514" data-attributes="member: 6687"><p>The laws of nature always existed in nature. They applied long before humans existed. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Straw man. Nobody said nature follows tablets floating in space.</p><p></p><p>Nature follows neither tablets floating in space nor the laws of people. Nature does what the forces of nature cause it to do.</p><p></p><p>When we human write down laws of nature, all we are doing is describing how it works.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No sir, there is abundant evidence that particles all over the universe are following the laws of nature, and they are doing it independently of all human minds.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Look through a telescope. See stars? The light from many stars left those stars long before the first human existed. And when we look at the starlight that comes to us, we find it was caused by ordinary physical processes just like on earth. There was nobody around to observe it when it happened. But it happened anyway, and followed the same laws of nature we know today.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No sir, neither belief nor the scientific method can make reality "come about".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doubtingmerle, post: 76833514, member: 6687"] The laws of nature always existed in nature. They applied long before humans existed. Straw man. Nobody said nature follows tablets floating in space. Nature follows neither tablets floating in space nor the laws of people. Nature does what the forces of nature cause it to do. When we human write down laws of nature, all we are doing is describing how it works. No sir, there is abundant evidence that particles all over the universe are following the laws of nature, and they are doing it independently of all human minds. Look through a telescope. See stars? The light from many stars left those stars long before the first human existed. And when we look at the starlight that comes to us, we find it was caused by ordinary physical processes just like on earth. There was nobody around to observe it when it happened. But it happened anyway, and followed the same laws of nature we know today. No sir, neither belief nor the scientific method can make reality "come about". [/QUOTE]
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