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<blockquote data-quote="Mark Quayle" data-source="post: 76833016" data-attributes="member: 410020"><p>You are repeating yourself again. </p><p></p><p>You may as well just say that a logically self-contradictory thing is impossible, as to go through all these changes. It doesn't apply to God, so why bother to say he can't? It does not limit God. He has no interest in doing such things! Life and truth is not about your point of view of it. (Ask Ayn Rand.) <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p> see above</p><p></p><p> God is just how it is. He is not a subset of anything else. Anything else besides him is a result of his causation. Therefore no conjecture can limit him. Is it really that hard to grasp?</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I use the term, "invent", to convey the idea of hierarchy. I don't really know of a word that would be sufficient to cover the idea I want to, nor does my idea of it do the job either. God has made things that are of his own nature. But you imagine that his nature is subject to the things (including logic and reality) he has created. You have it backwards, if he is first cause. </p><p></p><p>I'm not saying that our (my) descriptions are accurate; they are ignorant, my mind can't do this job. But when it comes to raw fact, God is the default, all else is secondary.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark Quayle, post: 76833016, member: 410020"] You are repeating yourself again. You may as well just say that a logically self-contradictory thing is impossible, as to go through all these changes. It doesn't apply to God, so why bother to say he can't? It does not limit God. He has no interest in doing such things! Life and truth is not about your point of view of it. (Ask Ayn Rand.) ;) see above God is just how it is. He is not a subset of anything else. Anything else besides him is a result of his causation. Therefore no conjecture can limit him. Is it really that hard to grasp? I use the term, "invent", to convey the idea of hierarchy. I don't really know of a word that would be sufficient to cover the idea I want to, nor does my idea of it do the job either. God has made things that are of his own nature. But you imagine that his nature is subject to the things (including logic and reality) he has created. You have it backwards, if he is first cause. I'm not saying that our (my) descriptions are accurate; they are ignorant, my mind can't do this job. But when it comes to raw fact, God is the default, all else is secondary. [/QUOTE]
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