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<blockquote data-quote="doubtingmerle" data-source="post: 76832469" data-attributes="member: 6687"><p>No sir or mam, the Big Bang was not simply developed to allow study of these things. We have been studying the origin of the universe for centuries. That study has led all of mainstream science to conclude that our observable universe began with an event commonly referred to as the Big Bang.</p><p></p><p>I asked you a specific question: </p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Do you or do you not agree that the universe almost surely began with the Big Bang?</p><p></p><p>I notice that you will not answer this specific question. Rather, you drone on about the need for study. Why study, if we know that, no matter what is found, we will just pass it off and ask for more study? Your refusal to answer tells me a lot about what is going on here. Please answer.</p><p></p><p>For good measure, let me ask you a different question:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Do you or do you not agree that humans evolved from other animals?</p><p></p><p>I really want to know where you are coming from. Because, from every thing I see, your posts are against humanism and the scientific view of origins. If I am mistaken, please let me know what you think about these things. Instead, you post things that seem to be opposed to mainstream science and refuse to answer simple questions about what you actually think.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Huh? You say this in direct response to this quote, which lists only one question. And yet you somehow claim that the question in this quote conflates a model with the universe:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><p style="margin-left: 20px">I told you where are thought the universe came from, the Big Bang. You will not tell us if you think the universe came from the Big Bang. Why not?</p></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">We have very good evidence that there was a Big Bang. You have not made the slightest effort to tell us whether you think the universe was caused by the Big Bang.</p> </p><p></p><p>There is only one question there--"Why not?" And I would like an answer. Why will you not tell us if you think the universe came from the Big Bang?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you answered, what was your answer? Do you or do you not agree that our universe almost surely began with the Big Bang?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And once again you appear to be attacking Humanists for belief-based religious opinion. It is the same type of attack you have used multiple times. This totally misrepresents what humanism is about. I am really curious why your posts seem to have nothing but disdain for humanism, and yet you identify as a Humanist.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doubtingmerle, post: 76832469, member: 6687"] No sir or mam, the Big Bang was not simply developed to allow study of these things. We have been studying the origin of the universe for centuries. That study has led all of mainstream science to conclude that our observable universe began with an event commonly referred to as the Big Bang. I asked you a specific question: [INDENT]Do you or do you not agree that the universe almost surely began with the Big Bang?[/INDENT] I notice that you will not answer this specific question. Rather, you drone on about the need for study. Why study, if we know that, no matter what is found, we will just pass it off and ask for more study? Your refusal to answer tells me a lot about what is going on here. Please answer. For good measure, let me ask you a different question: [INDENT] Do you or do you not agree that humans evolved from other animals?[/INDENT] I really want to know where you are coming from. Because, from every thing I see, your posts are against humanism and the scientific view of origins. If I am mistaken, please let me know what you think about these things. Instead, you post things that seem to be opposed to mainstream science and refuse to answer simple questions about what you actually think. Huh? You say this in direct response to this quote, which lists only one question. And yet you somehow claim that the question in this quote conflates a model with the universe: [INDENT][INDENT]I told you where are thought the universe came from, the Big Bang. You will not tell us if you think the universe came from the Big Bang. Why not?[/INDENT] [INDENT]We have very good evidence that there was a Big Bang. You have not made the slightest effort to tell us whether you think the universe was caused by the Big Bang.[/INDENT][/INDENT] There is only one question there--"Why not?" And I would like an answer. Why will you not tell us if you think the universe came from the Big Bang? If you answered, what was your answer? Do you or do you not agree that our universe almost surely began with the Big Bang? And once again you appear to be attacking Humanists for belief-based religious opinion. It is the same type of attack you have used multiple times. This totally misrepresents what humanism is about. I am really curious why your posts seem to have nothing but disdain for humanism, and yet you identify as a Humanist. [/QUOTE]
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