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How Would You Want This Explained to You?

coloradoguy

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I wanted people who were parents' input on this.


Anyway, my relationship with my parents has always been, rocky. After I moved out in college it got better, but we still can't spend very much time around each other without driving each other up the walls. Due to this, and just generally being different than the rest of my family, I've always been somewhat of an outsider among them. I'm not, but I'm the one in the family that's the last to know everything (if not occasionally left out of the loop entirely). I was talking to my fiancee the other night about how my sister and brother-in-law are going to start having kids soon, and this concerned me because I feel like I'll drop lower on the totem pole of importance. She saw my point, but tried to console me and rationalize with me that it may be that way first because, baby, but over time that will fade.

That was the end of the conversation, but the next day she suggests "What if you take my last name?" This caught me off guard. I didn't really know what to say at first. I knew that was a thing, but we had already agreed she was taking my last name. I asked her why, and she explained how we both feel more apart of her family than mine, so why take my name instead of hers? I thought about it for awhile, and then came back agreed to take her last name (obviously, or I this thread wouldn't be a thing).

Anyway, I'm not sure how to have this conversation with my parents. My family like to discuss real issues, they like keeping everything shallow (which is one way I'm different from my family, I don't do shallow relationships). Yes, I know that's a problem, but every time I try to bring that or anything up that's not politics, sports, or gossip, it's met defensively. I need to explain this to my parents. I don't want them to think I'm disowning the family or trying to separate myself from them, but that my future wife and I feel more apart of her family than mine.

We also talked to her parents, who were immediately taken back but ultimately very supportive of the decision, about how they would respond if one of her brothers' said they wanted to take their wife's last name, and they said that they would want to know why, and be reassured that it wasn't out of spite or anything. If it was, they would feel sorry, and try to work through it and hopefully he would change his mind. No matter what, they wouldn't hold it against him. These are also people who encourage their daughters and future son-in-law to call them mom and dad, and are much less traditional than my parents, which is why I thought to ask on a forum with more traditional people.

*We did talk about hyphenating, but it doesn't really work with both of our last names, it's a mouthful.
 

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Trick question.

Certainly, I would want anything explained to me in a kind and loving way. However, having this explained to me by my son would not go over well with me as a parent. As a daughter, it's customary. But for a son to do it means that there must be a special reason above what is customary that you're doing it. And the only reason I'm going think of is that you want to cut ties with me. You say that you don't want them to think that you are disowning them or separating from them, but saying that you want to do this because you feel closer to your fiancé's family than them IS saying all that to me.

Sorry. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood, because my own kids have been really demanding and draining lately. I don't see this going smoothly, and may worsen the relationship you do have with your family. Don't think of this as anything less than another step away you're making from them. If you really want to do it to be authentic to yourself, that's fine. Know that it's going to hurt others.
 
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I have a similar relationship with my parents. I'm not as close to them as my brother and sister, for sure. (One talks to them on the phone every day, the other visits them every day.) In fact, I think the only reason they initiate contact as much as they do is because I have their grandkids.

The last name choice is interesting. My husband and I are very traditional, but we considered this too. He is not close to his parents either. He didn't want to take my last name, but rather revert to another name further back in his family history. It got changed somewhere along the way, according to him, so his explanation was that he wanted to change it back. It was about honoring family history, he said. (Though the real reason is that he wanted to avoid being associated with certain family members.) We ended up not bothering, but that was our plan.

I agree with Odetta that your real reason is actually kind of offensive. That doesn't mean you aren't entitled to take whatever last name you want (yours, hers, or some other). It just means that preserving what relationship you have with your family probably means coming up with an alternate explanation. Your family will probably assume it's either a statement about feminism, or a statement about disowning them. So be prepared to refute both.

If your future wife has no brothers, you could tell them that it's their only chance to preserve the family name. Or you could tell them you've had some concerns about identity theft, and that you were advised to change your name anyway. Or if you don't want to be that elaborate, you could simply say that it's important to your fiancée to keep her name, so you've decided to acquiesce. You could even say that you're kind of bummed, but it's worth it to make her happy, and after all it doesn't mean as much to you as it does to her. (Then you're focusing on the positive of letting her keep her name, rather than the negative of ditching their name.)

Good luck.
 
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I can see most parents might get upset by something like this but I have no problems. My family has a long history of ditching their given name for another they prefer. I kept my maiden name. For me it's a matter of choice & preference & I'd be cool with it. I expect your parents won't. So long as you understand that & are prepared to deal with the fallout.
 
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I agree that the truth is the best option, but to be prepared to communicate kindly, not attacking them while you say it. This would give them an opportunity to think about why you both feel alienated from your own family. If face to face confrontations get too heated to even communicate at all, perhaps sending a letter would be a good way for you to explain yourself without any defensiveness or anger. Then they can contact you once they are ready to talk. This gives them time to think and hopefully you guys can come to an understanding.
 
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I'm not trying to change your decision, but I think you may wish to consider a few things. First, although name changes work out well for many men, many men have a great dear of trouble with them in mid-to-later years and wish they had kept their own family's name. Second, are you an only son? If so, it may be very painful to your family to know the family name will not be continued. Third, and most importantly, you need to work on your relationship with your family. You are old enough to be engaged, so you are old enough to realize that you and your fiancee could be in for a lot of trouble if you alienate your family. I'm not saying this will happen, they may be fine with your decision, but be prepared for your children to be slighted, while their cousins are indulged, on the grounds that "you aren't very close". You acknowledge that your family is getting closer now that you're out of college, but you fail to foresee a time (usually around the birth of your first child) that families grow MUCH closer, and can communicate better. Your parents may regard you as a child until you grow up in their eyes...and become a husband and father yourself. My family dramatically shifted once I was married...many people report this also!

In other words, I don't think there will be a good way to tell them you feel so apart from them that you no longer want their name. Whatever you do, do not lie to them, though.

Consider also the paperwork ramifications...a name change involves getting a new Social Security card, may be problematic with employment references and applications (however sexist it may be, society has an easy acceptance of women changing names upon marriage, but may look upon men doing so as shady or weird). We don't have many spots on forms for "father's maiden name" so kids may be awkward filling out school and other forms when they get to that stage.

Just my two cents.
 
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I was never considering not telling the truth, I was just was not sure on how it would come across and such. I can understand how they wouldn't take it very easy, and could easily take it personal. I don't want to cut my family out of my life,
This isn't a decision that was decided in a day or even a week, that conversation happened in May, and it wasn't until late July that I came to the conclusion that I wanted to do this. They are already aware the family name won't last through me, I am their only son, and they know that we will most likely not have children because she cannot and we've decided to become foster parents when we're ready so that we can help more than just two or three children. They understand and are okay with that.
Thank you guys for your imput and thoughts. It's been helpful.
 
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