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How we found out evolution is true: John van Wyhe at TEDxNTU
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<blockquote data-quote="Guy Threepwood" data-source="post: 76876824" data-attributes="member: 423388"><p>I believe it was about that many who affirmed that phlebotomy was a safe and effective treatment for a vast range of ailments for over a hundred years.</p><p></p><p>There were far more skeptics among the 'non-scientist community' Including George Washington who was killed by it.</p><p></p><p>But it depends how you define ToE, most scientists concede that certain crucial stages cannot be best accounted for by Darwinian processes, e.g. the first Eukaryotes.</p><p></p><p>i.e. it's no longer a question of whether Darwinism fails to account for the diversity of the biosphere, rather how short it falls. Many believe it has very limited power to affect mostly destructive changes of the kind we can actually observe: Birds losing flight, fish losing sight etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well actually a large non-scientist community was conducting direct practical research on this for hundreds of years before Darwin, testing hypothesis, direct observation, careful measurement. Only they were not called 'scientists' they were called 'farmers'. They were already quite familiar with the limitations of incremental change through selection pressures, long before 'punctuated equilibrium'</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>well yes, Piltdown man certainly held a lot of sway during that particular timeframe-</p><p>I did watch the entire vid actually a couple of weeks ago, strange he didn't mention it.. must have slipped his mind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Much like classical physics then. 'Science progresses one funeral at time': Max Planck, discoverer of quantum mechanics</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guy Threepwood, post: 76876824, member: 423388"] I believe it was about that many who affirmed that phlebotomy was a safe and effective treatment for a vast range of ailments for over a hundred years. There were far more skeptics among the 'non-scientist community' Including George Washington who was killed by it. But it depends how you define ToE, most scientists concede that certain crucial stages cannot be best accounted for by Darwinian processes, e.g. the first Eukaryotes. i.e. it's no longer a question of whether Darwinism fails to account for the diversity of the biosphere, rather how short it falls. Many believe it has very limited power to affect mostly destructive changes of the kind we can actually observe: Birds losing flight, fish losing sight etc. Well actually a large non-scientist community was conducting direct practical research on this for hundreds of years before Darwin, testing hypothesis, direct observation, careful measurement. Only they were not called 'scientists' they were called 'farmers'. They were already quite familiar with the limitations of incremental change through selection pressures, long before 'punctuated equilibrium' well yes, Piltdown man certainly held a lot of sway during that particular timeframe- I did watch the entire vid actually a couple of weeks ago, strange he didn't mention it.. must have slipped his mind. Much like classical physics then. 'Science progresses one funeral at time': Max Planck, discoverer of quantum mechanics [/QUOTE]
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