How tolerant are you of other religions?

Truncate said:

Are you saying that only the laws in the US against murder is stopping you from killing another person?

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Not necessarily.

TWells said:

Then why did you contribute with this?:



Sounds a lot like the major Buddhist persecution of Christians in Sri Lanka in the last few decades...

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the U.S. government states this: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2002/14027.htm

Some evangelical Christians, who constitute less than 1 percent of the population, have expressed concern that their efforts at proselytizing often are met with hostility and harassment by the local Buddhist clergy and others opposed to their work. They sometimes complain that the Government tacitly condones such harassment, but there is no evidence to support this claim. (emphasis mine) Some Christian organizations claim that they continue to face opposition at the local level in rural areas but state that legal action or the threat of legal action generally has resulted in their being allowed to continue their activities.

the report goes on to detail some alleged activity by Buddhists, Christians, Muslims and Hindus against all the other religions on the island.

in fact, the report goes so far as to state:

For the past 19 years, the Government, which is largely made up of Sinhalese (who predominantly are Buddhist), has fought the LTTE, a terrorist insurgent organization fighting for a separate state for the country’s Tamil (and predominantly Hindu) minority. After unilateral ceasefires were declared in December 2001, the Government and the LTTE signed a ceasefire accord in February 2002, which currently is in force.

Religion does not play a significant role in the conflict, which essentially is rooted in linguistic, ethnic, and political differences. Buddhists, Hindus, and Christians all have been affected by the conflict, which has claimed more than 60,000 lives. In the past, the military issued warnings through public radio before commencing major operations, instructing civilians to congregate at safe zones around churches and temples. In the conflict areas in the north, the Government occasionally has been accused of bombing and shelling Hindu temples and Christian churches. In November 1999, the LTTE recaptured the area where the Madhu shrine, a well-known Christian pilgrimage site, is located, and granted some limited access for a period thereafter. During the period covered by this report the LTTE generally allowed Catholics access to the Shrine. (report dated Oct 2002)

i do conceed that the evangelical movement literature claims that these things occurred and are still happening. at this time, though, there is not a third, independent, party confirming the allegations.

I know you were having a side discussion about who is the most persecuted, but what does it matter? What does it matter what religious group is persecuted the most?

If you can identify on who is persecuted
then you can help stop the persecution.

jayswife29 said:

Does evolution fall under religion, because thats one thing I am not very tolerant of, especially when my kids are learning it in school. I dont believe the way they do, and I cant say in a public school, that God created the earth, so why should they teach that the earth is billions of years old and get a way with it? Anyways, other than that, I am as tolerant to other religions as they are with me, including my own.

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Because science says it is that old, not a religion.

TwinCrier said:

Tolerance is such a modern buzzword. How is it people who aren't Christians can believe whatever they like and they are called 'enlightened' and 'tolerant', but Christians who have our own beliefs and opinions are called hate-mongers, bigots, racists, homophobes, whatever you may say. I don't hate anyone. Freedom of expression goes both ways, but to demand that others endure YOUR beliefs is the epitome of intolerance. I once heard someone say that those who are intolerant don't deserve tolerance. What hypocrisy!

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oh my gosh. is it that hard to understand?
i have a feeling explaining it will still get a big fat duh from you which indicates you do not want to understand. you want to be martyred.




Edited by Lanakila to change comment that used Lord as an expression. This is offensive language to Christians and violates the commandment against using the Lord's name in vain.

mala said:

all i can say to this is booohooohooo

you think that christians are being persecuted around the world do you??!

there are people who hate christians
there are people who hate muslims
people who hate jews
budhists
and on and on

if there's a group
there's another one ready to hate it

saying that your particular group is somehow the most targetted an exageration of great proportions.

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*cough* martyr *cough*

SqueezetheShaman said:

oh lord. is it that hard to understand?
i have a feeling explaining it will still get a big fat duh from you which indicates you do not want to understand. you want to be martyred.

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Is it possible for you to address someone without being insulting?

sure it is. see post 65.

edited to add 69 is polite too.

martyr....One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy

i believe you were doing that. It isn't an insult, it is an observation.

SqueezetheShaman said:

martyr....One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy

i believe you were doing that. It isn't an insult, it is an observation.

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You believe WHO was doing that? And how a person phrases an "observation" can certainly be seen as being insulting.

you thought i was insulting. fine. i will concede. i really don't care...let's drop it and allow the thread to get back on topic. want me to put you back on ignore so i am not tempted to "attack " you again
really though..let us drop it.

SqueezetheShaman said:

oh lord. is it that hard to understand?
i have a feeling explaining it will still get a big fat duh from you which indicates you do not want to understand. you want to be martyred.

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I am pretty sure that Squeeze would have a problem with me using offensive language about gays or muslims or some other minority. However, when Squeeze is on a Christian website, Squeeze decides to use the Lord's name in vain. This is the hypocricy shown by many whose prime moral code is tolerance.

I have a feeling that if I started making fun of Allah, or wiccans or any other religious being or idea, Squeeze would be one of the first to jump on my case for it. Double standard? Nah.

I tolerate all faiths except Christianity and Islam. I have zero tolerance for their teaching that the majority of humankind will be sentenced to a chamber of eternal torture (hell).

And of course, I think only metaphysical naturalism (nature all there is) is true.

Aaron11 said:

I am pretty sure that Squeeze would have a problem with me using offensive language about gays or muslims or some other minority. However, when Squeeze is on a Christian website, Squeeze decides to use the Lord's name in vain. This is the hypocricy shown by many whose prime moral code is tolerance.

I have a feeling that if I started making fun of Allah, or wiccans or any other religious being or idea, Squeeze would be one of the first to jump on my case for it. Double standard? Nah.

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I do believe you hit the nail on the head

Heathen Dawn said:

I tolerate all faiths except Christianity and Islam. I have zero tolerance for their teaching that the majority of humankind will be sentenced to a chamber of eternal torture (hell).

And of course, I think only metaphysical naturalism (nature all there is) is true.

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How many Christians or Muslims have you assaulted or killed? Oh, you just mean that you disagree with them. I thought for a second you actually meant that you wouldnt tolerate them. Silly me.

Heathen Dawn said:

I tolerate all faiths except Christianity and Islam. I have zero tolerance for their teaching that the majority of humankind will be sentenced to a chamber of eternal torture (hell).

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I tolerate all faiths except for those who believe that the holocaust actually took place. I have zero tolerance for their teaching that over 6 million Jews were sentenced to torture and death (death camps).

Aaron11 said:

How many Christians or Muslims have you assaulted or killed? Oh, you just mean that you disagree with them. I thought for a second you actually meant that you wouldnt tolerate them. Silly me.

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I have zero tolerance for the religions of Christianity and Islam, not for the people who are held captive by them. That's a difference. I fight against ideas, not people.

I tolerate all faiths except for those who believe that the holocaust actually took place. I have zero tolerance for their teaching that over 6 million Jews were sentenced to torture and death (death camps).

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False analogy. The correct analogy is: I have zero tolerance for Hitler, therefore I have zero tolerance for a god who sentences the majority of mankind to eternal torture. The Christian or Islamic god is in the same role as, and worse than, Hitler.

Tolerant enough, but not on agreement with. I am a Born Again Christian.

Heathen Dawn said:

False analogy. The correct analogy is: I have zero tolerance for Hitler, therefore I have zero tolerance for a god who sentences the majority of mankind to eternal torture. The Christian or Islamic god is in the same role as, and worse than, Hitler.

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Well, I believe in Christ and I don't believe that He sentences people to hell. Instead, He rescues them from hell. You aren't talking about the same God that I believe in and I am a christian.