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If i may add, i don't think ill date a girl who makes the first move. I always initiate first interest, and let her respond in whatever manner. And that usually tells me if its going to work out in the short run, the long run is a bit more complex. I am not naturally very assertive, but this is something i think is killing male female dynamics. Men arent manly and women are sometimes. And i dont like manly women.
I hear ya. I work at a restaurant that has a bar section to it and I've seen some of the manliest women there. Gave me nightmares one time. :oIf i may add, i don't think ill date a girl who makes the first move. I always initiate first interest, and let her respond in whatever manner. And that usually tells me if its going to work out in the short run, the long run is a bit more complex. I am not naturally very assertive, but this is something i think is killing male female dynamics. Men arent manly and women are sometimes. And i dont like manly women.
So in your case, what would you want the girl to do? Nothing? Just curious.
Times have unfortunately changed. Sometimes you have to take the first step, because some guys are chickens (i.e. my boyfriend).
1. Have you read Wild at Heart? I don't think you have, or else you would see why this is so frustrating for women to have "good Christian men" around. I for one am tired of "good Christian men". I want someone who is willing to be more than that. Someone who is not boisterously "macho" but who is also not just going to church every Sunday to ensure his salvation. This may be a little taboo... but I think there is more to this Christian life than just God's grace. There are battles to fight, you have to resist the Devil. (No one is exempt from temptation, not even YOU).
which brings me to question 2.
2. Do you have NO IDEA whatsoever of what a metaphor is? When Wild at Heart is talking about being strong, being in a battle, being a fighter...
this is NOT IN ANY WAY LITERAL. It's talking about spiritual warfare. Grace has saved us yes, but we're still tempted... we're still attacked (again this is spiritual, not physical!!!)... I have to face temptation 24/7.
That's the war we're (spiritually) fighting. The world against the kingdom of heaven. And it takes REAL MEN and REAL WOMEN -- not people sitting in a pew and raising their hands when the music plays -- to go out there and reflect the One who put us here.
That's my two cents. Take it or leave it.
not people sitting in a pew and raising their hands when the music plays -- to go out there and reflect the One who put us here.
Of course I'm not. But I don't call fighting temptation a battle, I call it resisting temptation.
So then women are warriors as well then. The metaphor might make a little more sense, despite how poor I think the metaphor is. (And it really is a dumb metaphor) Facing temptation is called self control and dicipline. Because its not like you have a good side and an evil side fighting eachother. There is only you, the temptation brings its temporal benifits and your lack of self control makes you wish you have those temporal benifits. But in the long run its not good and thats where self control and dicipline comes in.
Thats not a battle, thats called dicipline.
We are spreading the gospel and seperating ourselves from the world spiritually.
We arn't fighting the world.
What are you talking abouthat'sacomeontothepointIT'SOVER9000!!!!!!I don't see how asking someone for their facebook isn't being too forward. Heck, that's not even really a come on anymore.
Unless you've never actually talked to the guy, in which case that's kinda creepy.
But if there is an aquaintanceship/friendship already there, asking him for his facebook isn't being forward at all. But I wouldn't consider it a hint, either.
What are you talking abouthat'sacomeontothepointIT'SOVER9000!!!!!!
Too true in the last paragraph.Contantine I agree with you in a lot of ways. I worked with a non for profit that one of its missions was to prevent sexual harrassment.
In doing that they also told us of some of the times that its been very wrongly misemployed. I know in one instance a female coworker filed a sexual harrassment complaint and won because a male co-worker in the office had a picture of his wife in a bikini at a beech. (I wonder if the wife felt sexually harrassed)
Most of the time sexual harrassment doesn't lead to jail, in this case he just had to take the picture off his desk. Most however do lead to firings or other reprocussions.
At the very least having your name dragged through the mud like that is bad. A lot of people turn their heads now when a woman shouts sexual harrassments, and lot of times no one finds out any evidence or what the complaint is about before deciding the guy is a jerk.
Overall, for decades and decades its typically been the guy doing the asking (at least in the USA, I can't say for any other place) and slowly and slowly the whole "who asks who" wall is being torn down.That having been said I think its stupid to make up rules about how a woman can't ask a guy out. Really I just don't understand that. Whats a woman to do if she likes a guy but can't get him to ask her out? Its not about being a real man, its about common sense. I don't attach any sense of masculinity to it.
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