How to destroy homosexuallity...

Danielof the Island said:

I'm a male, so this discussion will be for helping males whom struggle with homosexuallity.

I'm a fairly intelligent being with extremely disciplined self control when it comes to sexuallity, plus my brain is "wired" differently than most men when it comes to sexual thoughts.

I conducted a controlled experriment, allowing myself and encouraging homosexual thoughts and so forth, to gain insight on just whut exactly homosexuallity is. Once I learned all there was from my own mind and thoughts, I placed an end to the experriment, ceasing in all homosexual thoughts. They remian in my mind, but only for annylitcal and data purposes.

Now, here's how I believe homosexualllity can be destroyed. Please, take a deep breath and follow me with an open mind, A OK?

The Purpose of Sex
Think about sex for the moment. Why are there men and women? Why do men and women have sex? Well, it's quite simple, really. God created two genders, because he wants two people to join together to bring forth another person into the world, so we couldn't just do it whenever we felt like it. At least, that's my take on it. I believe the purpose of sexuallity is procreation first and foremost. Second, sex is for a husband and wife to unite physically and spiritually. Finally, pleasure is simply a motivator. This makes it pleasurable or "fun" to procreate or to bring Human life into the world. This also makes the physical/spiritual unity with your spouse a "pleasurable" experience, so you will be motived to both procreate and unite. When you think about it, sex isn't that complicated. Wait till you're married, learn the science behind sex, then have at it when you're ready for kids. It really shouldn't be more complicated than that.

Homosexual Relationships
In order for a friendship with a fellow guy to develope into a "homosexual relationship," the friendship has to escallade to involve sexual attraction, kissing, touching for pleasure, you get the idea. Now, where's the logic in homosexuallity? You can't have his child, nor can he have your child. You can't complete him anymore than he can you. You both need a woman to be "completed," as that's how God designed the Human species. All that leaves us is with is pleasure. Kissing, touching, sex, whutever... who wants to do any of that purely for pleasure? It seems a bit shallow to me.

I'm feeling sexually attracted to one of my guy friends.
If this is a true friend, one whom you have known for some time and trust, it might be best to tell him. Tell him how you feel, that you don't want to feel that way, and that your friendship is more important than some perverted feelings. Work through it, learn to see him as a friend, and not a sexual partner. Maybe he can help you by introducing you to some female friends? Who knows, he might be able to help! I'm sure it'll be totally awkward at first, and he might ignore you for a few days. Give him time. If he's truelly your friend, he'll work through it, get back in touch, and help you overcome this crisis.

Deactivating Sexual Stimulation
Don't worry, you can actually switch this off like a light switch. Don't believe me? Welp, you're about to learn something really cool. When feeling "stimulated," find yourself a quite spot and have a seat. Close your eyes, and picture your blood, fluids, and hormones flowing in a nonsexual manner. Use your imagination. Count down from 100 as if you are counting seconds. When you reach zero, your hormones will be under control, and you will no longer be in a "stimulated" state. Whenever my body has pulled this surprise on me against my better judgement, I simply count down from 100 with the mental imagery, and walla. Control attained. Remember, you are who you choose to be. Don't allow yourself to be driven by lust and hormones. Your intellect and your heart should define who you are. Well, not thsoe alone, but you get whut I mean.

I think that about covers it. If there's anything I've missed, feel free to ask questions!

I know I haven't mentioned a word on scripture. However, my goal is not to qoute scripture, but rather, to help enforce it.

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Good job, Daniel. I have another think people can do when they start feeling stimulated. Sit down and start talking to God. I guarantee that if you are seriously talking to God, your sexual stimulation will shut down. I would like to share what I have learned about homosexuality. It is not inherited. There is no "gay gene". It is a type of mental disease and as such, should be considered as a curse of the devil. The good news is that like any other curse of the devil, it can be rebuked and broken.

Sorry, guys, I know that your posts are well intentioned, but elevating homosexual sin above any other is wrong. Sexual sin is still sin, whether homosexual or heterosexual. It is not a demon that needs to be cast out...believe me I've tried. It is a fallen way of thinking that can only be changed by God himself. He writes His laws on our hearts, and He gives us the desire to follow them. We can't escape those thought patterns without Him working in us. When we are tempted, our focus should be on God. One cannot learn from controlled experiments what those of us who do struggle with this feel. It is much more than being physically attracted to someone. There are emotional issues that we deal with as well. It's taken me 15 years to work these out, and I'm still struggling. Thank you for your concern, but please don't trivialize our struggles and assign such a quick fix to them.

shawn

Guys,

One thing I don't understand is: Why would you introduce a gay friend to girls?? That is useless!!! The guy really is NOT attracted to girls, you can't force it!!!
I also find this topic very abusive against homosexuals. You talk about it as if it's some kind of disease! Homosexuals are God's children too!
Homosexuals (heterosexuals) need to ask God for guidance in their relationships.
I really think that two men/women shouldn't have sex for it isn't the way it should be!

I know that gay people want to have sex too, it's instinct. BUT, it isn't ment to be that way. It is very hard, I recon, but one cannot go further than kissing/touching.

You sound like someone who really had some struggles in the past and now you're trying really hard to tell other people that it's bad. If you say that long enough, you will start believing it!

I'm straight, but I love gay-people for their stance in life! They usually are more kind than heterosexuals.

let me know, what you think of this opinion.

thedutchguy

Danielof the Island said:

I'm a male, so this discussion will be for helping males whom struggle with homosexuallity.

I'm a fairly intelligent being with extremely disciplined self control when it comes to sexuallity, plus my brain is "wired" differently than most men when it comes to sexual thoughts.

I conducted a controlled experriment, allowing myself and encouraging homosexual thoughts and so forth, to gain insight on just whut exactly homosexuallity is. Once I learned all there was from my own mind and thoughts, I placed an end to the experriment, ceasing in all homosexual thoughts. They remian in my mind, but only for annylitcal and data purposes.

Now, here's how I believe homosexualllity can be destroyed. Please, take a deep breath and follow me with an open mind, A OK?

The Purpose of Sex
Think about sex for the moment. Why are there men and women? Why do men and women have sex? Well, it's quite simple, really. God created two genders, because he wants two people to join together to bring forth another person into the world, so we couldn't just do it whenever we felt like it. At least, that's my take on it. I believe the purpose of sexuallity is procreation first and foremost. Second, sex is for a husband and wife to unite physically and spiritually. Finally, pleasure is simply a motivator. This makes it pleasurable or "fun" to procreate or to bring Human life into the world. This also makes the physical/spiritual unity with your spouse a "pleasurable" experience, so you will be motived to both procreate and unite. When you think about it, sex isn't that complicated. Wait till you're married, learn the science behind sex, then have at it when you're ready for kids. It really shouldn't be more complicated than that.

Homosexual Relationships
In order for a friendship with a fellow guy to develope into a "homosexual relationship," the friendship has to escallade to involve sexual attraction, kissing, touching for pleasure, you get the idea. Now, where's the logic in homosexuallity? You can't have his child, nor can he have your child. You can't complete him anymore than he can you. You both need a woman to be "completed," as that's how God designed the Human species. All that leaves us is with is pleasure. Kissing, touching, sex, whutever... who wants to do any of that purely for pleasure? It seems a bit shallow to me.

I'm feeling sexually attracted to one of my guy friends.
If this is a true friend, one whom you have known for some time and trust, it might be best to tell him. Tell him how you feel, that you don't want to feel that way, and that your friendship is more important than some perverted feelings. Work through it, learn to see him as a friend, and not a sexual partner. Maybe he can help you by introducing you to some female friends? Who knows, he might be able to help! I'm sure it'll be totally awkward at first, and he might ignore you for a few days. Give him time. If he's truelly your friend, he'll work through it, get back in touch, and help you overcome this crisis.

Deactivating Sexual Stimulation
Don't worry, you can actually switch this off like a light switch. Don't believe me? Welp, you're about to learn something really cool. When feeling "stimulated," find yourself a quite spot and have a seat. Close your eyes, and picture your blood, fluids, and hormones flowing in a nonsexual manner. Use your imagination. Count down from 100 as if you are counting seconds. When you reach zero, your hormones will be under control, and you will no longer be in a "stimulated" state. Whenever my body has pulled this surprise on me against my better judgement, I simply count down from 100 with the mental imagery, and walla. Control attained. Remember, you are who you choose to be. Don't allow yourself to be driven by lust and hormones. Your intellect and your heart should define who you are. Well, not thsoe alone, but you get whut I mean.

I think that about covers it. If there's anything I've missed, feel free to ask questions!

I know I haven't mentioned a word on scripture. However, my goal is not to qoute scripture, but rather, to help enforce it.

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Sorry dude, but that is patriachal nonsense. Enjoy your fantasy games, but honestly - your conclusions are probably best kept to yourself.

I don't understand how one could advocate "destroying" the same sex attraction, as if it was a bad guy in a video game.

To acknowlege your same sex attraction is one thing
To evaluate it and decide not to act on it is another thing.
But, an attraction cannot be destroyed.

I think this is a awesome post. I learned some stuff I didn't kno waoub tothers and even myself. This is really cool. Nice job!

i'm sorry, but that's all terrible advice.

I would not agree with the original post, when we start looking at ourselfs as perfect we fail god & jesus. there are people out there who are gay & like any group they have nice & scared people. I would agree that it is a mental disorder but perhaps only because of the fear & racism towards them. I dont agree that every man should have a wife & childeren! selibusy is following jesus indeed & loving one another is the key to life. In a world of fear it makes more sence not to fight like darwinism sugests. I think jesus said it best when he said he who has alot will have less or words to that effect.. why have more people on the earth as it is strugling to cope.

Nice origional post... but (yes the but means something bad) there is a flaw. You don't have God set anywhere in your plan. If you don't put God into your plan your homosexual struggles will start up again. Without God nothing permament can be accomplished. Also, I find it hard to beleive that you turned yourself gay for a few days, then turned yourself back straight, and "storred" the memory from your experiences for data purposes only. A little science for you, we can't control how our nuerons store information because they open and closed based on how much we use that part of "memory", that's why when you memorize something you repeat it, do it several times, try to actively use it because that opens the nuerons and makes that part more active. If we could do what you said: then man bring in the scientist because you just solved the only problem they have that prevents them from hooking up man and machinery to make robotic organs work on their own or storing email in our brain. It kinda does seem like you dumb down the problem as if it can be solved with a few simple steps. It's not that simple. It takes an act of God to change some one and prayer warriors and a support group of christian friends or an acountability partner and controling your eyes and thoughts. We know the purpose of homosexual relationships is "pointless", but so is eating dorritos and drinking coke. Why don't you just eat vitamens and drink water all day then; there is an emotional and developemental side to it that you're not looking at and you havn't seen or experienced. I do like the part about telling your friend that you're attracted to them in a sexual way (on the condition that the person is a close friend and a christian). So that they can help you in any way. I do agree with that, I think it's about in the same area as getting acountability partner which lets you confess your sins, replace the false intamancy of lust and little fantasy trips with true christian intimancy, and also getting someone to love on you as God does but show God's love as flesh and blood. To the dutch guy about your opinion. I believe it's very good and very bad. Hehe, kinda two sided bet perhaps I should explain. The negative side. You act like there is ntohing wrong with being gay but the Bible clearly shows there is. I felt like you were saying that a homosexual cannot change by saying it's useless to introduce a gay guy to girls and how you can't force it. There is a group called Exedous International which is the largest ex-gay group in the nation in which all members used to be gay and now they are striaght and many have spouses. They would probably dissagree with you and say that you can change because all these people have gone through the trails and have changed. The possitive side: is your love for them that God has given you. We're supposed to love our brothers and sisters in Christ and gay people need as much love as anyone else and I think it's amazing how you can have such a strong possitive feeling for them. Now, maybe your reason isn't good (because you said you love them for their stance in life when that's a stance of actively seeking to live in sin) but you do love them and love cannot be questioned if it's unselfish.

Im gonna put ur counting down from 100 thing to test..if it works...im thank you soo much. cuz i can use it a lot

Homosexuality cannot be destroyed just as much as heterosexuality cannot be destroyed. Here's an experiment for heterosexuals to try: Whenever you see someone stunningly beautiful or handsome that lights up your soul and heart, try telling yourself you're only imagining this, it's not real, my mind is tricking me, etc. You will realize that you are in denial. You cannot pretend to like somebody or dislike somebody when you KNOW you do. Fortunately there are such institutions like marriage and dating for heterosexual people who will find genuine joy in their relationships. Unfortunately, homosexual people do not have such institutions, and many end up in heterosexual relationships thinking they are really straight! Many of these people end up living in denial. Even though they love their spouses very much and care for them, they will ALWAYS feel something is missing.

Yes, it is true that only within heterosexual sex can procreation occur. But that is only a result of heterosexual behavior. When a heterosexual man turns his head because he finds a woman stunningly beautiful, he isn't thinking "I want to bear a child from this woman and start a big family," but he is thinking, "this woman is very attractive." That being said, if sex was solely for procreation, then we wouldn't need contraceptives. In fact we should ban it! But obviously that's not the case.

Danielof the Island said:

I'm a male, so this discussion will be for helping males whom struggle with homosexuallity.

I'm a fairly intelligent being with extremely disciplined self control when it comes to sexuallity, plus my brain is "wired" differently than most men when it comes to sexual thoughts.

I conducted a controlled experriment, allowing myself and encouraging homosexual thoughts and so forth, to gain insight on just whut exactly homosexuallity is. Once I learned all there was from my own mind and thoughts, I placed an end to the experriment, ceasing in all homosexual thoughts. They remian in my mind, but only for annylitcal and data purposes.

Now, here's how I believe homosexualllity can be destroyed. Please, take a deep breath and follow me with an open mind, A OK?

The Purpose of Sex
Think about sex for the moment. Why are there men and women? Why do men and women have sex? Well, it's quite simple, really. God created two genders, because he wants two people to join together to bring forth another person into the world, so we couldn't just do it whenever we felt like it. At least, that's my take on it. I believe the purpose of sexuallity is procreation first and foremost. Second, sex is for a husband and wife to unite physically and spiritually. Finally, pleasure is simply a motivator. This makes it pleasurable or "fun" to procreate or to bring Human life into the world. This also makes the physical/spiritual unity with your spouse a "pleasurable" experience, so you will be motived to both procreate and unite. When you think about it, sex isn't that complicated. Wait till you're married, learn the science behind sex, then have at it when you're ready for kids. It really shouldn't be more complicated than that.

Homosexual Relationships
In order for a friendship with a fellow guy to develope into a "homosexual relationship," the friendship has to escallade to involve sexual attraction, kissing, touching for pleasure, you get the idea. Now, where's the logic in homosexuallity? You can't have his child, nor can he have your child. You can't complete him anymore than he can you. You both need a woman to be "completed," as that's how God designed the Human species. All that leaves us is with is pleasure. Kissing, touching, sex, whutever... who wants to do any of that purely for pleasure? It seems a bit shallow to me.

I'm feeling sexually attracted to one of my guy friends.
If this is a true friend, one whom you have known for some time and trust, it might be best to tell him. Tell him how you feel, that you don't want to feel that way, and that your friendship is more important than some perverted feelings. Work through it, learn to see him as a friend, and not a sexual partner. Maybe he can help you by introducing you to some female friends? Who knows, he might be able to help! I'm sure it'll be totally awkward at first, and he might ignore you for a few days. Give him time. If he's truelly your friend, he'll work through it, get back in touch, and help you overcome this crisis.

Deactivating Sexual Stimulation
Don't worry, you can actually switch this off like a light switch. Don't believe me? Welp, you're about to learn something really cool. When feeling "stimulated," find yourself a quite spot and have a seat. Close your eyes, and picture your blood, fluids, and hormones flowing in a nonsexual manner. Use your imagination. Count down from 100 as if you are counting seconds. When you reach zero, your hormones will be under control, and you will no longer be in a "stimulated" state. Whenever my body has pulled this surprise on me against my better judgement, I simply count down from 100 with the mental imagery, and walla. Control attained. Remember, you are who you choose to be. Don't allow yourself to be driven by lust and hormones. Your intellect and your heart should define who you are. Well, not thsoe alone, but you get whut I mean.

I think that about covers it. If there's anything I've missed, feel free to ask questions!

I know I haven't mentioned a word on scripture. However, my goal is not to qoute scripture, but rather, to help enforce it.

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Others failed to mention how you trivialized homosexual relationships. You said something about to have a homosexual relationship you have to have this and this to happen (physically) to prove your point that homosexuality is not "logical". Then you compared it to heterosexuality and having babies. First of all, you completely narrowed homosexuality down to pure physical needs. Second of all, you completely narrowed heterosexuality down to having babies. When a hetero man is attracted to a woman, do you think the first thought is, "Wow, I want to have babies with her."? Give me a break. The desire for a family comes after falling in love and having sex. You are leaving out the biggest component of the whole situation--LOVE. Anyone here will tell you that love is more than physical. Now there are some people out there who exist to have their next sexual encounter. I'm not talking about them. I'm saying, having same sex attraction means that you are drawn to falling in love with someone of the same sex, not simply because you want a piece of ***. I'm not justifying homosexuality, but I am saying as human beings, we exist for more than to just satisfy our sexual desires. It's more complex than you make it out to be.