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How to deal with a needy spouse?

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This is really driving me crazy. I already posted about how my husband is very negative and complains all the time. I have been really focusing on God and on Gods love and reading more in my Bible, but am really still struggling. My husband grew up in a family were he didnt feel loved, he felt rejected, he was also abused by his brother that is 5 years older than him. So is has alot of issues and he is love starved with a very strong root of rejection. This IS DRAINING ME!!!! He isnt looking to God to fill the hole in him, he tries to get every ounce of it from me, and I cant do it. He is completely focused on getting his needs filled from me so that he "feels" ok inside. Like this morning, I was reading my Bible on the couch, he has the day off. He says to me......."Are you not enjoying my company". and I said why would you ask that, he said cause your reading and not talking to me. I had just picked up the Bible, but point it as soon as my focus isnt completely on him, he feels rejected, it is so exhausting to be his everything all the time. And he never says what he really wants or needs, he says things to get me to do what he wants. WHy cant he say, I really wish you would read later, I would enjoy doing ?? with you. But leaves me instead to feel like I am doing somthing wrong, I mean if I cant even read the Bible without feeling like I am doing something wrong........I feel so smothered! Like last night, he had taken a shower, comes out and says right away, I'm clean.........(hint can we cuddle or something) he cant just give me a hug or ask for one but he has to maniputate me to do what he wants instead of asking. Now if I dont know what he is trying to get me to do and dont do it then he gets either mad cause I am not doing something or sad cause he is rejected, he is never at peace. I am not a mind reader! The way things are leaves me feeling like for him it is just a take take take relationship, I love you because of what you can do for me, It's a conditional love. I love you because you meet some need in my life.

Please give me some ways to deal with this. I am trying to not get resentful, some days are better than others, but I am really running on empty, I feel like I am responsible for my happiness as well as his all the time.

He does nothing to help himself be happy. The Pastor told him he needs to work on his heart, what is in him to be happy, but he takes no time to help himself, he wants to get it all from me.
 

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That is TOUGH.

Be of happy heart though, my spouse was like that, but now he's better.

I had boundary issues too so we were a mess.

I've learned to listen to his feelings, tell him I am sorry he is feeling that way and pray with him or for him and tell him I can not fix him.

I encouraged him to go to men's group and he has on and off and it helps and I think he is starting to see that it helps.

Keep pressing on - it will get better, just not overnight.
 
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Does he like to read? You might want to check out Wild at Heart by John Eldredge (I may be getting his last name wrong), it directly addresses the types of things you're talking about, and I haven't spoken to a man yet that hasn't enjoyed reading it!
 
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Does he like to read? You might want to check out Wild at Heart by John Eldredge (I may be getting his last name wrong), it directly addresses the types of things you're talking about, and I haven't spoken to a man yet that hasn't enjoyed reading it!


Thank you for your reply. He actually doesnt like to read at all, he always struggled with reading and reads really slow so it just frustrates him. The only time he reads really ........is if "I READ", so it is on me again. I really wouldnt mind at all if it was something that was really important to him, the problem is he doesnt have the want to to change, he doesnt recognize what he does, when he isnt happy, he blames me and I feel he really believes it is my fault. That if I would just to ? or ? he would be happy!

This is confusing me too, cause if I am reading the book then I am still being made responsible for his happiness or maybe controlling, cause I would be doing it to change him.........I dont want to get back to the trying to fix him, I have worked very hard at not being co dependent. Really for the first time he is being faced with these feelings because I am not feeding into them like I did in the past. Before he would throw a fit and get angry to intimidate me to do what he wants and I would so I wouldnt have to deal with him getting angry. I stopped doing things I enjoyed cause he was so possessive, and needy. Now that I have really dealt with this and realized it wasnt healthy I have been taking care of me alittle more and he doesnt like it. How do you separate a healthy you......from being self centered?? I dunno!

He is used to getting alot of attention, I never realized just how much was on him. He is a recovering drug addict, has had sexual addictions, and anger issues. Like I said before he has issues from being abused. So our whole marriage he has been a big focus as far as his problems, I think he is addicted to that!!!!! ERRRR LOL

didnt mean to write a book here LOL

Thanks again :)
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That is TOUGH.

Be of happy heart though, my spouse was like that, but now he's better.

I had boundary issues too so we were a mess.

I've learned to listen to his feelings, tell him I am sorry he is feeling that way and pray with him or for him and tell him I can not fix him.

I encouraged him to go to men's group and he has on and off and it helps and I think he is starting to see that it helps.

Keep pressing on - it will get better, just not overnight.


Thank you for responding :)

I would love for him to go to the mens groups, I wish he wanted to. I will be praying for that! He doesnt like accountability.

I am going to start going to a womens group, it is for being in diffucult relationships and how to deal with it.

I told my husband I was going to go to a support group and he didnt like the idea. He just doesnt want to share me at all. He seemed to take it as a threat. It isnt at our Church it is at another, he said , why are you going there that isnt our Church. I also said I wanted to reach out and make some friends, we moved here a year ago from another state and I dont really have any friends and his response was well I dont have any friends either. I guess another thing that bothers me is that my happiness doesnt seem to be anywhere in his priorities, just his own happiness.
 
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This may sound like heresy, but I promise you it isn't.

I don't think your husband needs to look exclusively to God to fill his emptiness. He needs other people too, and you are one of them. After all, the Bible talks about us Christians as different parts composing a BODY. That means we do not function as disembodied, independent arms or legs, but as part of the whole. We do not just look to God and do our thing as a floating arm; we look to the legs to help us walk and the eyes to help us see, as well as looking to God. After all, it is God who has created the other body parts, the other people, anyway; so how are we any less dependent on Him if we rely on Him to provide His children as help to us?

As someone who has been repeatedly abused in childhood and adolescence, I understand why your husband has such problems with motivation and self-esteem. He's been on the receiving end of conditional love - if any love at all - for years and years, so it is likely very hard for him to understand that true unconditional love exists. Once he sees it through the way God's children treat him, it will be easier for him to show unconditional love to you.

I suggest that you both look toward a community of believers; find people that you connect with, and make an effort to spend time with them. You alone can't meet his needs; you're right. But, God doesn't want his human relational needs to go unmet, either.
 
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I have been this same way for years. It is straining my marriage with my wife as well. I was never abused (or at least that i know of) but have suffered from a sexual addiction and the shame that goes along with it. My self-esteem has gotten so low it is hard to function sometimes. "wild at heart" is a great book, I am reading "The 4 pillars" now that kinda goes along the same path. My manipulation comes from self-esteem issues such as "Why wouldn't she be looking somewhere else for love?" because I don't feel lovable. So anytime I feel a little down, if she doesn't read my mind and lift me up, then she is obviously not in love with me....get it? which turns the wheels which breeds more and more issues. Anyway, just throwing mine in...let me know if its helpful or not
 
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Does it seem to you your husband continues to act much like an addict even though he isn't taking drugs?

The isolation, fear of you telling his secrets to others, the demand for your instant attention all kind of sound more like an addict who just so happens not to currently be taking drugs, rather than a healthy person who has actually worked through their addiction problems.

I would encourage you and for that matter him, to both seek support, social interaction and indeed full blown counseling. He will probably say that he doesn't need or want help, but the facts are that he has shown already he isn't capable of taking this on by himself.

What you have on your hands seems to be a very ill person, your husband someone in serious need of help but afraid to get it.

As a good wife, you seek help. Go to that support group, find out how to help yourself and him. Encourage him to also get help. Don't be secretive, don't be isolated. Time for all this to come out in the open where it can be dealt with.

It won't be easy, it's even fairly likely that he will be so afraid of facing this that he will leave. Show him love, encourage him, but you can't follow him down the addict's path.

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AHHHH well that explains so much!

First of all get him books on tape - that way he can just listen (or CD whatever works best for him). Then he doesn't have to read and he can listen while going to and from work.

People like that (and I used to be one!) can be very needy and will suck the life right out of you if you let them. The key is letting them vs. not letting them.

You need a support group and your own support system and so does he. That will be a great foundation for building your marriage on.

Definitely above all else, seek support for you - you are going to need it!
 
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Does it seem to you your husband continues to act much like an addict even though he isn't taking drugs?

The isolation, fear of you telling his secrets to others, the demand for your instant attention all kind of sound more like an addict who just so happens not to currently be taking drugs, rather than a healthy person who has actually worked through their addiction problems.

I would encourage you and for that matter him, to both seek support, social interaction and indeed full blown counseling. He will probably say that he doesn't need or want help, but the facts are that he has shown already he isn't capable of taking this on by himself.

What you have on your hands seems to be a very ill person, your husband someone in serious need of help but afraid to get it.

As a good wife, you seek help. Go to that support group, find out how to help yourself and him. Encourage him to also get help. Don't be secretive, don't be isolated. Time for all this to come out in the open where it can be dealt with.

It won't be easy, it's even fairly likely that he will be so afraid of facing this that he will leave. Show him love, encourage him, but you can't follow him down the addict's path.

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absolutely! I feel like he replaced his drugs with me. I feel like I am his drug he is trying to use to fill the hole inside of him.

I cant really reply to your comment with the time i want to right now, as hubby is home and if he saw me talking about this as insecure as he is it would be a bad thing. I will be back on Monday, thank you so much for your reply.

God Bless
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Does it seem to you your husband continues to act much like an addict even though he isn't taking drugs?

The isolation, fear of you telling his secrets to others, the demand for your instant attention all kind of sound more like an addict who just so happens not to currently be taking drugs, rather than a healthy person who has actually worked through their addiction problems.

I would encourage you and for that matter him, to both seek support, social interaction and indeed full blown counseling. He will probably say that he doesn't need or want help, but the facts are that he has shown already he isn't capable of taking this on by himself.

What you have on your hands seems to be a very ill person, your husband someone in serious need of help but afraid to get it.

As a good wife, you seek help. Go to that support group, find out how to help yourself and him. Encourage him to also get help. Don't be secretive, don't be isolated. Time for all this to come out in the open where it can be dealt with.

It won't be easy, it's even fairly likely that he will be so afraid of facing this that he will leave. Show him love, encourage him, but you can't follow him down the addict's path.

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You seem wise about addiction. I have said many times that he is alot the same only not taking drugs. All the issues are still there and not dealt with. His sobriety is like a time bomb to me and he cant see that he is just one second away from using. He is a meth addict. He has been through teen challenge, that was before I met him, he had been clean for 2 years when we got married, I met him when He was clean, never saw that side to him, he was my brothers best friend but I never met him as I lived 3 thousand miles away when my brother and him were in high school together. When he was in teen challenge, they discovered that he could work on cars really well so they took him out of the curriculum and put him in the shop and he graduated from that program without doing any of the program, they used him and he ONCE AGAIN was able to manipulate to get out of doing what he didnt want to do, only shooting himself in the foot cause he really missed out of working on himself. Then he relasped about 2 years after we got married, and stopped on his own, it was a short time out. Then in 2005 (we were married in 98) he relapsed and it was a nightmare, our lives went insane, I ended up throwing him out after finding his meth pipe, he had been denying it until then. I had been a stay at home mom for 7 years so didnt have a job, we had a mortgage and car payments, we lost our home and all our cars everything and I was pregnant, it was a real nightmare. I moved in with my daughter in Hawaii, I had full custody and had divorced him. He didnt want to stop, and I couldnt stop him and he was becoming very scarey to be around. He ended up get sick and tired of being sick and tired and went into a program, he left that one and went into another one ended up out of that one, there was alwys a reason to leave, someone wasnt doing something right, everything is always someone elses fault, never his. A pattern learned my his parents, he never had to take responsibility, they even blamed me for him going back on drugs, when obviously it was his choice. In explaining all this I left out that I had got a job while pregnant, and had health insurance and helped him get into another program, he had to leave that one after 2 weeks cause the insurance wouldnt pay for anymore and he ended up using again while in my house that I was renting, I had to throw him out again. I cant fix him, I am feeling angry as I go through all this to write it. I let him manipulate me once again. When I was Hawaii, he would call me and after he got out of the last program he moved to florida near his aunt and cousins that were all Christians, he started going to Church, got a job and was getting his life back together. He seemed to be really getting back with the Lord, but he had selfish motives that I didnt realize, I was sooo naive to the addict ways of thinking. I think his intentions were good, like the child who promises to clean there room for a week to get allowance and then doesnt follow through, they mean it but just dont do it. He getting close to God for himself, to get right with the Lord and to please the Lord, he was doing it to get me and the kids to come back, to fill his void he had. Well he would call me and talk about nothing but the Lord, how much God was doing for him, and everything was about God, I was thrilled!!!!!! He was telling me everything I wanted to hear cause he knew that I still loved him and really wanted a Christian husband that loved the Lord with all his heart and was on fire for God and was going to be a Spiritual leader. I had always had to be the spiritual leader, he never was. Once I decided to come to Florida and work things out once I got here, everything was great at first, we even got remarried, but after he had me back, no more Bible reading, nothing about God, no praying everynight. If I dont get everyone up for Church we dont go. I do the devotionals with the kids, like last night I said why dont you come with me to the kids room and do the devotional with us, he said I can hear you from here (the couch). FAR different than the man on the phone 6000 miles away trying to convince me to come back to him. I feel very manipulated. Another promise he made was to not yell at the kids, that is a deal breaker, he was sooooo bad about that when he was using. I said I wont tolerate it, it tramatizes them, brings them right back to all the terror we went through that they remember. He yelled at them the other day and I stopped him and he got mad at me, everything he promised went out the window and now that he has his family back, he is still miserable inside, but like I said, he wants to get all his happiness from me. I AM TIRED!!

Nothing will stop me from going to that support group, I need to start taking care of me. I still feel confused about what is taking care of me and what is being self centered. I know as a wife I am supposed to die to self and be there for my husband, I feel I have done that above and beyond and he is still not happy with anything.

I lose myself around him. Last night he was watching TV, I wanted to read my book, I walked across the livingroom, picked up my book and went back to the couch, he was sitting in the chair and he immediately said what are you doing, I said I was going to read my book, his whole demeanor changed, cause I wasnt doing what he wanted me to do, what does it matter if I am reading a book or staring at the TV with him, he feels rejected when I focus on something else, every move I make I feel is watched and judged, I cant breath. I got on the computer for a second to check my email and he said can you tear yourself away from the computer for just a second, I just got on! I cant breath.

I am sorry for venting soooooo much, it feels good though I must say! LOL

I feel guilty cause I regret remarrying him. I had 35,000 I saved from selling the house we had , we each ot 35,000, he blew all his on drugs, I saved mine and when I came to florida I bought the house we live in now, I could have started over on my own, but now I am back in all his drama, I know that isnt Christ like thinking, I am no where near where God wants me to be either. I guess that is why I really need this support group too, I need someone to help lift me up as well.

He talked him into going fishing this morning, he used to love it and I thought it would be good for him to do something fun that he enjoys that isnt about me, and that is also why I was able to write this today instead of Monday.
 
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I have been this same way for years. It is straining my marriage with my wife as well. I was never abused (or at least that i know of) but have suffered from a sexual addiction and the shame that goes along with it. My self-esteem has gotten so low it is hard to function sometimes. "wild at heart" is a great book, I am reading "The 4 pillars" now that kinda goes along the same path. My manipulation comes from self-esteem issues such as "Why wouldn't she be looking somewhere else for love?" because I don't feel lovable. So anytime I feel a little down, if she doesn't read my mind and lift me up, then she is obviously not in love with me....get it? which turns the wheels which breeds more and more issues. Anyway, just throwing mine in...let me know if its helpful or not


Thank you so much for your perspective on this. You acknowledge that you do this, this means that it can change for you and be a victory! wouldnt it be great to lift yourself up, reach to God instead of trying to get it from another person, what peace we will all have when we look to God for what we need.

Have you ever been in therapy?? Alot of people dont realize how thier childhood caused some issues in their lives until they have been in therapy. Such as having parents that are very critical, or that always had a condition to show you love, a performance type love rather than unconditional love.

I pray that you will have victory in this for you, so you will find true peace and joy, the one that comes from the inside, not from things or people from the outside which is a temporary boost.

God Bless You
Sunny
 
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Godismyhero: According to your post, I would guess that accountability is something he is not yet ready for. (1)

Your husband sounds like he is addicted to being the 'sick' person. This does happen! He gets a reward for this behavior in the form of attention that an inner part of him craves. Such a person cannot simply jump into responsibility, they do not know how.

Here is where he needs to be able to supply that attention to himself. I use an analogy of seeing one's inner self as a tiny kitten carried 24-7. That tiny thing must be kept warm and dry and safe and be fed and cared for. This is a skill that healthy people have and most wounded people need to learn.

Teaching that skill, teaching him to provide his own inner-attention, is a tough thing if he does not read. It is likely not something you can do either! Some wife's can indeed do this teaching, but not one he has already learned to over lean-on.

Thus, I think he needs to find a counselor who is experienced in working with wounded men. You and he will need to shop around a bit as many counselors will take wounded men and create MORE-WOUNDED men. (This is a problem which is currently being worked on by us egalitarian types.)

You'll need to ask questions of the counselor in regard to their work with wounded men. I'd say, if the counselor has never read "Victims No Longer" by Mike Lew and has never read "Fire in the Belly" by Sam Keen, then the counselor is no good to your husband. But, that's just my opinion. (BTW: You might want to read both books!)



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1: An important aside: For some men, preaching accountability and DUTY are the worst thing possible: Doing so is not only noxious, it is poisonous; it kills. We all need to REMEMBER THAT! Unfortunately, few Christians would allow love and kindness to be preached to a mere-male. This is one of the greatest faults in today's Christianity.
 
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